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iOS Bass Players Thread #5, V, or cinco, take yer pick.

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#921
I don't know if it would be a must have for me. At $150 it's the same price as my Focusrite iTrack solo, without the Focusrite level of quality, and only a 1/8" out. Not really an issue for me, but the Focusrite has 1/4" stereo/mono out, and RCA out, as well as having connectivity for Mac, PC, USB, yada yada yada, included Ableton Live Lite and Scarlett plugins, etc.

It is more compact, and I like that, and the MIDI through capability is cool although I don't currently use that, so that doesn't really break any deals for me but might for others.

Still, it's never bad to have another option on the market pushing everyone to make something better for a good price point.
 
#923
Rip Topaz said:
Beat me to it.

This appears (giving IK the benefit of the doubt till reviews start coming in) to be the answer to our switching problems.

This is an all-in-one interface that handles midi as well. Pretty impressive, might actually have me here.
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Jeeeeez

I was just at they're site and didn't see it. I agree that it's too bad they didn't put an audio out, but is the phone jack on an ipad4 that bad? True, the iTrack Solo will have better converting but can it really be heard in a church or pub, farmers market or airport?

I'm guessing it has the same guts as the iRig MIDI and iRig HD in one box. Not surprising, now that I think about it. I have a used-once iO Dock I may be selling soon. :cool::ninja: Or... I'll keep it. The dock will have better A/D converters for lower noise stuff.

I could easily see an iRig Pro in my future. I'm starting to feel the affects (or effects) of GAS.
 
#925
FEF said:
Jeeeeez

I was just at they're site and didn't see it. I agree that it's too bad they didn't put an audio out, but is the phone jack on an ipad4 that bad? True, the iTrack Solo will have better converting but can it really be heard in a church or pub, farmers market or airport?

I'm guessing it has the same guts as the iRig MIDI and iRig HD in one box. Not surprising, now that I think about it. I have a used-once iO Dock I may be selling soon. :cool::ninja: Or... I'll keep it. The dock will have better A/D converters for lower noise stuff.

I could easily see an iRig Pro in my future. I'm starting to feel the affects (or effects) of GAS.
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I suppose when you think about it, there really isn't any compelling reason to offer a line out on the device for what most of us are doing with the iOS gear. Just seemed like they stopped short on the design but you pretty much put it all in perspective ;)

IK's response to my question about the lack of a Line out -
Like iRig HD before this, and other similar interfaces to it and to this currently on the market, the device output is more than capable for a broad spectrum of the use of such a compact and portable interface. When used on Mac OS X systems, you also have a wider variety of routing possibilities at your fingertips which makes it quite flexible there too.
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This does look like the cheapest interface and the most compact if you are looking for audio and midi in at the same time. Kudos to IK for coming up with a seemingly great product at such a compelling price point!
 
#926
hey guys... I know that most of us know to put the iOS device into airplane mode to prevent phone calls but how to you shut down all the other sounds that can blast through your iOS device?

Notifications will continue to ring out, calendar alarms, AMBER ALERTS AND OTHER GOV WARNINGS are part of the latest iOS and consider for a moment what the Emergency Broadcast signal could do to a live performance!!!

Hitting DO NOT DISTURB will only work if your phone is in lock mode... I am not aware of a way to SHUT DOWN ALL SYSTEM SOUNDS... is anyone else aware of a way to do this?
 
#927
I don't think there's a way to get rid of the emergency notifications, but I made sure to turn off ALL app notifications or at least their sounds.

I use airplane mode for gigs but at rehearsal I've only been interrupted once, and that was an alarm I forgot about.
 
#928
i have never during a performance been interrupted by notifications when in airplane and do not disturb. one time when starting at 10:00am a calender notification came on band i had forgotten to put it into those modes but we were about to start and hadn't started yet. the sound was off for those but it did come up on screen and made the app go silent for a sec. i quickly turned the modes on and off we went. no one knew that it happened.
 
#929
I've been thinking...

Have any of you seen, or would it be possible, theoretically, to make or buy a Lightning or 30-pin (one or the other, not both) merge/splitter box? There have been many times when I've wanted to plug in two things at the same time. It should be possible, but there may not be much of a market for it.

It should be easy to make a dongle that will allow charging while using an external device.

I think it's an interesting thought. I'm sure the masses would not consider it for a second, though.
 
#930
rolandm said:
I don't know if it would be a must have for me. At $150 it's the same price as my Focusrite iTrack solo, without the Focusrite level of quality, and only a 1/8" out. Not really an issue for me, but the Focusrite has 1/4" stereo/mono out, and RCA out, as well as having connectivity for Mac, PC, USB, yada yada yada, included Ableton Live Lite and Scarlett plugins, etc.

It is more compact, and I like that, and the MIDI through capability is cool although I don't currently use that, so that doesn't really break any deals for me but might for others.

Still, it's never bad to have another option on the market pushing everyone to make something better for a good price point.
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BluesMan845 said:
hey guys... I know that most of us know to put the iOS device into airplane mode to prevent phone calls but how to you shut down all the other sounds that can blast through your iOS device?

Notifications will continue to ring out, calendar alarms, AMBER ALERTS AND OTHER GOV WARNINGS are part of the latest iOS and consider for a moment what the Emergency Broadcast signal could do to a live performance!!!

Hitting DO NOT DISTURB will only work if your phone is in lock mode... I am not aware of a way to SHUT DOWN ALL SYSTEM SOUNDS... is anyone else aware of a way to do this?
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Most modern mobile musicians get to know "Airplane Mode" pretty quickly when gigging.
 
#932
Rip Topaz said:
Apparently the iRig Pro falls short on the midi end.

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The cabling eliminates many keyboards from working with the iRig Pro. I hope the same isn't true for midi pedalboards.
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I don't think it sounds like it falls short unless you have a set of keyboards that only connects via USB... at least that is what I got from the article. I am surprised it won't work with their own iRig Keyboards... Sounds like it's only the ultra portable keyboards that don't support standard midi connections.

What I do find interesting on IK's website is they show a Stealth I/O plugged into it ( can't remember the name ) and it's discontinued ;). They only have the StealthPedal ( USB ) and that won't work with this. Maybe they will be announcing a Midi pedal board?
 
#934
BluesMan845 said:
I don't think it sounds like it falls short unless you have a set of keyboards that only connects via USB... at least that is what I got from the article. I am surprised it won't work with their own iRig Keyboards... Sounds like it's only the ultra portable keyboards that don't support standard midi connections.

What I do find interesting on IK's website is they show a Stealth I/O plugged into it ( can't remember the name ) and it's discontinued ;). They only have the StealthPedal ( USB ) and that won't work with this. Maybe they will be announcing a Midi pedal board?
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Actually it does work with MIDI foot controller, in the video we show it connecting to a FCB 1010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_T-smZtf0Q

For now we have iRig BlueBoard shipping in a few weeks.

As for the MIDI, it is for use with professional MIDI gear and not just USB or single connection USB MIDI controllers. Even in the review they say its "a universal connection..." that set and created the MIDI standard way back when. This Universal MIDI in is what we went with for keyboards, drum machines and foot controllers.
 
#935
Rip Topaz said:
Apparently the iRig Pro falls short on the midi end.

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The cabling eliminates many keyboards from working with the iRig Pro. I hope the same isn't true for midi pedalboards.
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I don't think the controllers that have USB connections use the MIDI protocol. They are computer input devices. I can't think of a pedal board for live use that would only use a USB connection.

Thinking more, since it's spitting out MIDI, I wonder if you could go from the MIDI out to a MIDIsport 2x2 or Lexicon Alpha, then to the USB Korg Nanopad2? Probably not the MIDISport, but maybe the Alpha, since it's got power. That would be an interesting test.

It's possible that I'm sideways... If things like the NanoPad are a true midi device with a USB connection, they would likely need phantom MIDI power to operate. Still possible, but more complicated.

From that I read, that interface cable is just a way to get from a compact box to a large plug/jack. As long as the TRS connection is actually a MIDI out, and it could be, because MIDI only needs 3 wires (5 if MIDI phantom power is needed), we're golden. Although, I wonder what would happen if you put headphones in that TRS jack?

No matter how you look at it, all this stuff if pretty darn cool.

By the way, I use a Rock Band 3 strap-on keyboard as my 'portable' keyboard. In my opinion, it's the best kept secret, bang for the buck, controller, ever. :)

Edit: Ack!!! It's a MIDI in, not out. That means you can't drive other MIDI devices. This takes us back to the Lightning or 30-pin hub idea. Then we could have an iRig HD and an iRig MIDI at the same time.
 
#936
My other main concern, and this hasn't been touched on, is that every stinking one of these interfaces (my Jam included) are made out of PLASTIC.

Seriously? How many gigs is the Blueboard gonna last?

I know I haven't been exactly IK-friendly around here, but at this stage of the game it all comes down to results for me.

If the generic (Behringer and the like) midi foot pedals will work, I think that would end up being a more road-worthy setup than the Blueboard. Plus some have the expression pedals built into the board.

I baby my gear as much as possible, but at a gig stuff happens. Drinks get knocked over, people step where they shouldn't. I'm constantly worrying I'm going to take out the Jam accidentally at a show.

These devices aren't built to withstand much of anything, including.. Hmm.. STEPPING ON THEM.

Can we get a sturdier enclosure?
 
#937
Hey man, it's a plastic world... plastic interfaces, plastic phones, plastic chairs, plastic plastic... if I had my way everything would be made out of WOOD ;)

Gonna just say we appreciate IK jumping in and explaining a few things about the new product... I was referring to the pictures on the website of your discontinued pedal board... did notice the Behringer controller in the video though ;)

Thanks for stepping in and explaining some stuff... don't let Rip scare you off.. ;)

Now that we have IK lurking here again... any chances of a few more bass amps in an update to Amplitube iOS??? Most of us abandoned the app because of a lack of choices

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#938
Nice to feel wanted. :) Obi stepped away but I wanted to clarify that the reviewer is definitely talking about USB controllers not standard MIDI connections. There should be zero issues with those, thankfully.

You can use Bluetooth in Airplane Mode, technically, if you put your device into Airplane Mode and then enable only Bluetooth in settings. The rest of the services that were disabled remain disabled. This will be useful for iRig BlueBoard users.

I know we've been sending the requests for bass amps internally but I also realize you are not satisfied yet with the result. We'll keep doing what we can and keep you posted.

Also, I will find out more about the sturdiness of iRig BlueBoard. We will relay what information is found, and also pass the suggestion for metal casing (even if for a future rev/product/etc).

Thanks! I like the positive vibe and I hope iRig PRO ends up being considered by some here if it applies to your needs and I know I am stoked for it but I don't have one yet either so I might start ruining the positive vibe griping about it so I'll stop ;)
 
#939
Since you're hanging out... A MIDI out on the iRig Pro would make it really stand out. It's the only thing missing on the magic box.

I'm not too worried about plastic. Assuming they're made of the same stuff my kids' toys are made of. I used to step on them all the time. Aluminum would be a nice touch though, and kill RF a bit better.

The next BlueBoard needs some kind of readout, to be nearly perfect. That way we know what patch we're on without looking at the iOS device.

Since I'm dreaming, can you guys start work on my Lighting or 30-pin hub idea. :ninja: ;)

But hay, Mostly I'm glad IK's around at all. I says a lot to me as a consumer. :cool:
 
#940
ikmultimedia said:
Nice to feel wanted. :) Obi stepped away but I wanted to clarify that the reviewer is definitely talking about USB controllers not standard MIDI connections. There should be zero issues with those, thankfully.

You can use Bluetooth in Airplane Mode, technically, if you put your device into Airplane Mode and then enable only Bluetooth in settings. The rest of the services that were disabled remain disabled. This will be useful for iRig BlueBoard users.

I know we've been sending the requests for bass amps internally but I also realize you are not satisfied yet with the result. We'll keep doing what we can and keep you posted.

Also, I will find out more about the sturdiness of iRig BlueBoard. We will relay what information is found, and also pass the suggestion for metal casing (even if for a future rev/product/etc).

Thanks! I like the positive vibe and I hope iRig PRO ends up being considered by some here if it applies to your needs and I know I am stoked for it but I don't have one yet either so I might start ruining the positive vibe griping about it so I'll stop ;)
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I am definitely considering it .. Jist what I've been looking for!
 
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