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#482
I was on the IE site (signing up for a Nimbus SE) and came to realize that all the pics of the Divaricator...are pics of my actual pedal. The screening/painting process makes them all different, and the errant black 'scarring' match mine identically. Which is cool as it's my most used pedal.
 
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#483
@BurningSkies Do you use the Divaricator at all to attempt to double a riddim and make it sound like both a bass and guitar locked together on it? Can it sound legit for that using the exciter circuit?
 
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#484
extreme said:
Do you use the Divaricator at all to attempt to double a riddim and make it sound like both a bass and guitar locked together on it? Can it sound legit for that using the exciter circuit?
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No, that's not really what it does. The octave component in the exciter stage doesn't really sound like what you'd get with an octave pedal. It's hard to describe, but it acts more as a function to 'color' your tone rather than as you'd get with a dedicated octave pedal. It's a bit more 'ambient' than an octave.

I use the Divaricator to 'split' my signal, so that I can do some strange stuff to the high pass then have it recombine with clean lows. So, in my Divaricator loop, I have my fuzz (a Dr. Scientist Frazz-Dazzler, two stage fuzz) into the Xerograph deluxe before heading to several delays (Strymon Timeline & GFI Clockwork). Before I had the Frazz I used the 'growl' to feed that chain.

So my board is set up with a handful of things in front of the Divaricator & loop and then some stuff behind it. The Polytope rides behind it due to how I use it and the D/V-XE in songs. Also, since it has the filtering on it, I can still keep clean lows without wash when using the Polytope.

Here's my board:

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In from the right, it gets

Cali776CB(compressor)---Joshwah (traditional envelope)---T16 (octave down)---(synth)..was Matryosha, now Future Impact---Mantic Flex Pro (PLL synth-noise unit)---Mooer Slow Engine (volume swell)---//

//Divaricator--Frazz Dazzler (Fuzz & gated fuzz)---Xerograph Deluxe (stunt env. w/expression)---Timeline (Delay)---Clockwork (delay)---Divaricator out---//

//---Polytope---FDeck HPF3---Polytune.

And here's what it does;
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The whole song has Polytope on it, but when you get to about 2:20, you'll hear Slow Engine-D/V-X/D-Timeline-Clockwork.
 
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BurningSkies said:
No, that's not really what it does. The octave component in the exciter stage doesn't really sound like what you'd get with an octave pedal. It's hard to describe, but it acts more as a function to 'color' your tone rather than as you'd get with a dedicated octave pedal. It's a bit more 'ambient' than an octave.

I use the Divaricator to 'split' my signal, so that I can do some strange stuff to the high pass then have it recombine with clean lows. So, in my Divaricator loop, I have my fuzz (a Dr. Scientist Frazz-Dazzler, two stage fuzz) into the Xerograph deluxe before heading to several delays (Strymon Timeline & GFI Clockwork). Before I had the Frazz I used the 'growl' to feed that chain.

So my board is set up with a handful of things in front of the Divaricator & loop and then some stuff behind it. The Polytope rides behind it due to how I use it and the D/V-XE in songs. Also, since it has the filtering on it, I can still keep clean lows without wash when using the Polytope.

Here's my board:

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In from the right, it gets

Cali776CB(compressor)---Joshwah (traditional envelope)---T16 (octave down)---(synth)..was Matryosha, now Future Impact---Mantic Flex Pro (PLL synth-noise unit)---Mooer Slow Engine (volume swell)---//

//Divaricator--Frazz Dazzler (Fuzz & gated fuzz)---Xerograph Deluxe (stunt env. w/expression)---Timeline (Delay)---Clockwork (delay)---Divaricator out---//

//---Polytope---FDeck HPF3---Polytune.

And here's what it does;
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The whole song has Polytope on it, but when you get to about 2:20, you'll hear Slow Engine-D/V-X/D-Timeline-Clockwork.
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Wow that sounds crazy awesome
 
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#486
shaggy45 said:
Wow that sounds crazy awesome
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The song... or the signal path? Thanks, I think. ;)

The studio version should be released with video on Feb 14th (our little Valentine's gift). Hopefully they can get the mix right...when I last heard, the breakdown part (the thing that starts around 2:20) was getting lost in the overall mix and I gave notes to have the volume automated up across the whole piece to have it ramp up across the breakdown peaking at the same level as the regular bass groove.

That's how I'm using the Xerograph w/expression generally. Paired with Timeline that's got an ambient patch that's running 5th/octave delay.
 
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#488
shaggy45 said:
Well now that you mention it, both :D
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People around here ask me how I'm applying some of the crazier sounds I have. This is one of the ways. At shows though, lots of people assume this is done on keyboards...and a few times I've had people actually tell me they thought it was keys until they realized our keys guy had his hands off the Moogs and that I was digging in.

A bit of D/V-X/D here with Timeline & Clockwork with me leaning in on the delay feedback swell...and then a really good health dose of the crazy Mantic Flex-Pro, if you head to about 4:20. During the drum/bass breakdown there's no guitar or keys, only bass/drums.

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#489
BurningSkies said:
People around here ask me how I'm applying some of the crazier sounds I have. This is one of the ways. At shows though, lots of people assume this is done on keyboards...and a few times I've had people actually tell me they thought it was keys until they realized our keys guy had his hands off the Moogs and that I was digging in.
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It sounds great. I love slamming the xerograph with different things and see how it reacts. I’ll try some delay and ambiance type sounds next time I play. I don’t have a cross over pedal anymore but maybe mixing things in parallel on the es8 will sound cool.
 
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#490
shaggy45 said:
It sounds great. I love slamming the xerograph with different things and see how it reacts. I’ll try some delay and ambiance type sounds next time I play. I don’t have a cross over pedal anymore but maybe mixing things in parallel on the es8 will sound cool.
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Try it and see what you get. I follow basic pedal etiquette, except the chorus falls after my delays. All the synth related stuff is up front so it can trigger effectively. I also found it easier live to have two envelopes, one set for the crazy stuff and another that's 'normal', even though the XD can do a good clean envelope...because I hate to twist knobs on stage.
 
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#491
BurningSkies said:
Try it and see what you get. I follow basic pedal etiquette, except the chorus falls after my delays. All the synth related stuff is up front so it can trigger effectively. I also found it easier live to have two envelopes, one set for the crazy stuff and another that's 'normal', even though the XD can do a good clean envelope...because I hate to twist knobs on stage.
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Very cool! I've read/followed your posts the past number of years, but had no idea what your music sounded like. I just assumed more rootsy and dubbed out sorta vibe...nothing like this! I stick to pretty much roots. The only reggae bands I've really listened to that are out your way are Mosaic Foundation and Destroy Babylon.
 
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extreme said:
Very cool! I've read/followed your posts the past number of years, but had no idea what your music sounded like. I just assumed more rootsy and dubbed out sorta vibe...nothing like this! I stick to pretty much roots.
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It does both...

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#494
extreme said:
Super solid tone and playing!!! And that vocalist is great, too. Gonna start following you on social media...always looking for inspiration!
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Thanks. This is a recording off our IEM setup, so not much more than a rough mix for reference. The bedrock of what we do is reggae/soul, but it goes where we take it. Here's the full night:

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Though the EP and album are available in all the streaming places and free on soundcloud.

Beyond my board, What you're hearing is Dingwall NG3 into Monique.
 
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extreme said:
Super solid tone and playing!!! And that vocalist is great, too. Gonna start following you on social media...always looking for inspiration!
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It's a good reminder at how critical a good vocalist is towards most people's opinions of a band. I've long suffered in bands centered around the musicianship of the players with a focus on long exploratory jamming...as such, vocals have always been something one of us picked up just to do the job and it always held the band back. You really do need a great vocalist to suck you in...on all of @BurningSkies clips, I am ready to move on when the vocals kick in and they always draw me in to listen to more of the clip.
 
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cosmicevan said:
It's a good reminder at how critical a good vocalist is towards most people's opinions of a band. I've long suffered in bands centered around the musicianship of the players with a focus on long exploratory jamming...as such, vocals have always been something one of us picked up just to do the job and it always held the band back. You really do need a great vocalist to suck you in...on all of @BurningSkies clips, I am ready to move on when the vocals kick in and they always draw me in to listen to more of the clip.
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Thanks. We luckily have two singers who are both lead quality vocalists then have two people who can sing backups. We also KNOW that we're going to play with a lot of bands with barely passable vocals or no vocals...and that's a really tough sell for the audience. The public is trained to 'latch' on to a singer's presence as well as the vocals. Really the people who love the instrumental stuff...are musicians and you'll never build a following big enough with that. Also, lots of 'jam bands' out there who use it as an excuse not to have strong writing.

The other part is to play for the song, rather than playing to run your fingers. That's why some of our songs literally have bass parts that are 4 notes and others are fully wide open. We expect everyone to play appropriately and you will be knocked down if you don't. ;)
 
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