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Yep, $575-$590 would seem to be close to a breakeven after considering Reverb fees and shipping (from IE and Reverb). Not that someone should have to break even and get a free use ticket. So the profit isn’t as big as it looks but it would still be profit at the selling price.

Business consultation aside, I really enjoy the XD the more I use it. I still can land in “yuck” territory but an adjustment to Freq or Sens knob usually handles what I need. I find the XD can go deeper than my Chromatron and is bouncier/more responsive to my playing. The Chromatron sounds a little flatter in its responsiveness. But they both have their uses so I’m keeping both. The triggering on the Chromatron can be smoother for synth sounds due to its effects loop but I’m still gravitating more to the XD for the juiciness.
Yeah. I’ve actually purchased a pedal in person from that guy...

I agree with your assessment of the XD vs Chromatron. I prefer the Chromas separate attack and decay for fine tuning and the fx loop is fantastic. Otherwise, I was and would still be completely happy with the XD. It’s an incredible pedal.
 
Yeah. I’ve actually purchased a pedal in person from that guy...

I agree with your assessment of the XD vs Chromatron. I prefer the Chromas separate attack and decay for fine tuning and the fx loop is fantastic. Otherwise, I was and would still be completely happy with the XD. It’s an incredible pedal.
Allen’s a good dude . I should introduce him to Talk Bass
 
Actually that guy bought it for over $700 (during the brief window it was concurrently restocked on the ie site). So if he does sell it at his listed price, after fees, he will definitely be losing a fair bit on it.
I think we can all agree it’s overpriced regardless of the back story.
 
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I've got one as well. It sounds good in this particular combination. I've tried dr scientist dusk instead of xd and I can see why xd and dubterrenea optimized to work together . On dubterrenea side I prefer only one voice, with two voices there's less clarity to my taste. not digging the octave either, prefer my t16. Tracking is good and overall sound is sweet. I keep it for different synth flavour.
 
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but I actually want them placed sort of far apart so having them combined doesn't work out for me

FWIW the Dubterrograph has separate INs and OUTs for both the Dub side and the Xero side. If you only plug IN to the Dub and OUT from the Xero, they run together. But you can use their individual IN/OUT to place them anywhere in your signal chain, even though they will be next to each other physically. They're in one chassis, but can function as two completely independent units.
IMO, having to use maybe longer patch cables and get creative with the wiring/signal path is an easy sacrifice if it means getting an otherwise unobtainable pedal.

Also, not to throw a wrench out there if T.L. already has plans for it, but I ended up returning my Dubterrograph to IE. Wasn't exactly what I was hoping and I already have a SubT and an XD. Didn't feel right trying to flip it on the market so I returned it. Took USPS almost two weeks to deliver from WI to OR, but tracking says it's arriving back there today.. so maybe there'll be one DubO in the shop today?? (or maybe it's already promised to someone, idk).
 
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FWIW the Dubterrograph has separate INs and OUTs for both the Dub side and the Xero side. If you only plug IN to the Dub and OUT from the Xero, they run together. But you can use their individual IN/OUT to place them anywhere in your signal chain, even though they will be next to each other physically. They're in one chassis, but can function as two completely independent units.
IMO, having to use maybe longer patch cables and get creative with the wiring/signal path is an easy sacrifice if it means getting an otherwise unobtainable pedal.

Also, not to throw a wrench out there if T.L. already has plans for it, but I ended up returning my Dubterrograph to IE. Wasn't exactly what I was hoping and I already have a SubT and an XD. Didn't feel right trying to flip it on the market so I returned it. Took USPS almost two weeks to deliver from WI to OR, but tracking says it's arriving back there today.. so maybe there'll be one DubO in the shop today?? (or maybe it's already promised to someone, idk).


TBH I didn't notice that about the I/O jacks, that is quite cool actually. That being said, I personally prefer the modular aspect of having them in separate casings, especially since I'm not 100% sure I will keep the xeroD on my bass board, or if I would use it on my guitar board.
 
MUCH more experimentation and exploration is required, but this is definitely a winner in the synth category. Like owning 2 Apple products, these 2 are made for each other and optimized for each other and you can tell. While I get the echoes of having them separate (I've got a Xerograph Deluxe too), there's a certain magic about them being together too.

When I first saw the 2 ins/outs, I felt a little gipped that I wasn't even saving on the cable between the two, but they are wired together if you don't use the jacks which is actually a SUPER cool option and I'm destined to explore fuzz in that fx loop. While this is hands down the most badass looking pedal I own, it isn't all that practical. Using them separate with the footswitches positioned as they are is a near impossibility without planned workarounds. The workarounds aren't bad, but they are workarounds. If you set the synth and env switches the opposite of what you like them to be set at, you can just step on either w the bypass at the same time. Those are also the easiest to turn on/off if you have them on the wrong setting. It's pretty badass stepping on both bypasses to get that full synth sound too, but it really depends on how you plan to use it. If you want to cherry pick your stomp selectors, I had great success tilting my foot and hitting it more on the side, almost like I'm playing hacky sack so not too awkward, but less than ideal.

If you can get beyond the usability, the sound is pretty much cream of the crop. The combo of the 2 effects is what every synth pedal wishes to be. It still feels like it is coming from a bass and has that touch sensitivity, but sounds so authentic. My one gripe about most synth pedals is the digital-ness of them. Your sound is just converted to a digital signal and then it can be processed to sound like pretty much anything, but that's so artificial. This is that ooey gooey real stuff. I don't know if these are analog / digital, but they have that analog vibe...if that makes any sense.

I'd be curious to side-by-side the Dubterrograph against the XD and DubT to see if there are any advantages to the big box vs the individual pieces, since from a design perspective...there seems to be some sacrifices with this setup. From a sonic perspective, this one crushes all. I'm a Future Impact guy for my synth sounds on my main board as I'm all in on the MIDI train, but if you are a knob twister who doesn't like apps and having to learn synthesis, this behemoth of a pedal, the Dubterrograph...this is the ONE.
 

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