Irreversible climate damage is imminent

[96tbird]

I always think of periods high volcanic activity, millions of tons of ash and toxic gas belching forth vs. the machines of man doing the same thing; which is more harmful?. North America was under a mile of ice last ice age and has been melting ever since. Before that, Baffin Island was a tropical rain forest... true story. I dunno.

 

[Bloodhammer]

Never fear! Immortal is already on it!

 

[Johnny Crab]

I used to worry about "climate change". No more.

Now, I realize that we are on a relatively small rock moving at about 66,622 miles per hour around a concentrated thermonuclear reaction we call the sun. The sun is a star. Eventually stars go away or explode and/or become black holes. Either way, it ain't gonna end pretty here.

 

[Internet Police]

George Carlin was funny but... did you ever actually think about any of that?

I did but only just long enough to remember the basic jist of what he said. Any longer than that and I'd wake up in a field wearing chaps and a neck tie.

 

[Munjibunga]

Even if it's happening, it's not irreversable. It may seem like it in terms of human lifetimes, but the polar caps have melted numerous times over geologic history, then come back to cover half the planet with ice. I'm not going to sweat it. I'll be dead by the time anything drastic happens.

 

[Kwesi]

Even if it's happening, it's not irreversable. It may seem like it in terms of human lifetimes, but the polar caps have melted numerous times over geologic history, then come back to cover half the planet with ice. I'm not going to sweat it. I'll be dead by the time anything drastic happens.

I feel that when people say "reversible" they really mean "reversible by human means."

 

[Munjibunga]

I feel that when people say "reversible" they really mean "reversible by human means."

Long term, in the face of nature, humans are inconsequential.

 

[Bloodhammer]

You and I are very alike, Munji.

 

[Ziltoid]

Mungi's a geologist, of course he sees the earth in terms of millions of year

 

[Kaa]

Don't worry. The planet will unleash something to reduce our population by about 70-90%, then we won't be affecting the environment much for a while.

Personally I'm hoping not for a bug/virus, but a new super-predator like a dragon or maybe giant kittens.

 

[DerHoggz]

Actually there are four things up for debate.

1) How serious is the change in climate that is occurring and has it leveled off? And have the books been cooked by some in the scientific community, the hockey stick for instance is a complete fraud?

2) Are humans actually contributing to climate change?

3) If so, how much, what percentage?

4) Do humans have the capacity to reverse it?

There has been plenty of other climate changes within history. In the early 1600s we went thru a mini-ice age. In the 1300s we went thru a warming period that in parts of the world were we kept records was warmer than the current period. Humans somehow survived thru those period. I do believe we in the West need to have a smaller Carbon footprint, not because I'm convinced CO2 emissions are changing the climate as much as we simply can't afford all of the stuff we believe we need.

In answer to number 1, recently some scientists who believed the graphs (I'm assuming you are talking about temp. graphs whit the "hockey stick") were inaccurate went about collecting data to create their own graph. They thought the data for the others weren't based on good data. The plot they came up with is almost exactly the same. I'll try to find a link later.

Oh, and BTW, I give this thread 3 pages, max.

That depends, how many posts/page do you use. I have 40 posts/page going on.

 

[DerHoggz]

Here is the link:

BBC News - Global warming 'confirmed' by independent study

 

[sandmangeck]

MANBEARPIG

 

[DerHoggz]

THE COMING OF THE NYAN WAS FORETOLD, WE ARE SURELY DOOMED!! OH THE HUBRIS OF MAN!!!!!!!!

NON-STOP NYAN CAT!

 

[Bloodhammer]

Personally I'm hoping not for a bug/virus, but a new super-predator like a dragon or maybe giant kittens.

Here kittykittykitty.....

 

[Sonicfrog]

These kinds of deadlines are idiotic! This new one contradicts the IPCC's previous irreversible one by three years.

The 2009 Copenhagen Summit, which was set as a deadline and seen by many to be the last chance to do something about AWG FAILED miserably.

From 1979 - Sea rise could be 18 - 25 feet if we stay on course! Of course we stayed on course but that didn't come quite close to happening.

No ice at North Pole this summer. No no ice happened instead.


Even world renowned Climate expert Prince Charles gave us 18 months to save the world... And that deadline passed 22 months ago.

None of this means that AGW isn't real. None of this means that the extra CO2 we do emit into the atmosphere has no effect on temps or climate. Consider this - CO2 levels have increased from 290ppm at the turn of the 20th century to today's levels of about almost 400ppms, yet, somehow, NOW we only have five years before it's too late? Why wasn't it too late 50 ppm's ago????? (which is more likely the case)

The more they issue these kinds of deadlines and then fail to meet them, the more idiotic they look.

 

[Sonicfrog]

Here kittykittykitty.....

That was a great movie BTW!

 

[runmikeyrun]

I'm not worried about global warming anymore, but the shortage of clean drinking water.

Saving that, the nanobot takeover/grey goo doomsday scenario scares the crap out of me!!

Grey goo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sonicfrog]

I for one, welcome our grey goo overlords!

(like you didn't know that was coming!!! )

 

[fhm555]

...These kinds of deadlines are idiotic...

I put as much faith in end of world by climate change predictions as I do the end of world by God predictions of end timers.