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Irreversible climate damage is imminent

You can go back to check. I get the feeling you assume you're doing me some sort of favor by not checking. Perhaps not, forum posts are hard to judge sometimes. While you're there, check out I_got_a_mohawk's post about assumptions made by the other side as well.

no i'm not going back cuz i dont care. what i'm saying is the exact line of thinking is happening all the time.
 
I buried a thunderbird turbo coupe speedometer at 130 mph once. Even if I could have gone faster, the car lacked the breaking/banking/steering power to make it anything other than a MORE foolish choice.
As an owner of a similar period vehicle from the same manufacturer, I would argue that the 130 mph was already foolish choice.:p
 
Stop subsidizing big oil I agree with. So even if a gallon of gas costs $5 instead of $3.40, you're still going to artificially raise it to $10.

Question: who gets the other $5 and why?

I might be boldly suggesting to address this different.

How about what get's this tax money and why.

I would suggest infrastructure. Because we, as in humans, need infrastructure to support the modern lives we have become accustomed to.
 
But wasn't it fun?

I think that's something lacking in today's lives.

Fun. That grin that splits your chin fun.

The kind of stuff where I forget about all the little aches and pains. Where I'm not worried about my friend in summer camp.
A car accident at 130 mph will kill and maim both the driver and likely any innocent motorists caught in the crossfire.

That's not fun. That's heartbreaking.
 
A car accident at 130 mph will kill and maim both the driver and likely any innocent motorists caught in the crossfire.

That's not fun. That's heartbreaking.

Red Ryder. It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye.

I think this drive to a risk free society isn't doing anyone any favours.

Want to save petro? Bring back the MG Midget. Powered by a 36 hp motor this car will get you where you're going. And probably kill you in the process.

But it's not how long you live. It's how loud you laugh!
 
Red Ryder. It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye.

I think this drive to a risk free society isn't doing anyone any favours.

Want to save petro? Bring back the MG Midget. Powered by a 36 hp motor this car will get you where you're going. And probably kill you in the process.

But it's not how long you live. It's how loud you laugh!


When I grew up we never wore helmets when riding bikes (I still don't) and we built death defying ramps out of any spare scrap, we always had bandaids on us. Mom used mercurochrome on all our injuries which was worse than the scrape itself. As teenagers if we didn't have a timing gun we would ride on the engine of the car, hood up, down the street to adjust the distributor cap until it "ran" right. Jumping off of bridges was a regular passtime in the summer. When we were little during the summer mom woke us up early and gave us breakfast (at the table no TV) and then we were locked outside until lunch (I guess so she could be alone to make our polyester Sunday suits that matched). You could not get back in unless you were bleeding (and knowing the pain of mercurochrome we hid injuries with mud) We drank from the hose and often caught and cooked fish from the ponds and creeks around over fires. We spent the day catching snakes in the creek or digging giant holes in the ground to make our forts. Basically, we had lots of fun and did not need consumer products like computers, tv, video etc etc. Doing all these things we learned how to do things and not get hurt in the process. We have made our society safer, but I often wonder if we damaged our view of life and living in the process. Somewhere along the line, while becoming safer, we became afraid to death of everything and made a rule to always blame someone else for our dumb decisions. To some degree that pushed companies to build dangerous things smarter and safer which is good - seatbelts were a novelty when we actually had them in cars, but a great idea for sure. But, people die and there is not way around that; but did they live while they could? Just my .02 on all that.
 
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Doesn't anybody go bungee-jumping anymore? Aaah the good old days.....

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When I grew up we never wore helmets when riding bikes (I still don't) and we built death defying ramps out of any spare scrap, we always had bandaids on us. Mom used mercurochrome on all our injuries which was worse than the scrape itself. As teenagers if we didn't have a timing gun we would ride on the engine of the car, hood up, down the street to adjust the distributor cap until it "ran" right. Jumping off of bridges was a regular passtime in the summer. When we were little during the summer mom woke us up early and gave us breakfast (at the table no TV) and then we were locked outside until lunch (I guess so she could be alone to make our polyester Sunday suits that matched). You could not get back in unless you were bleeding (and knowing the pain of mercurochrome we hid injuries with mud) We drank from the hose and often caught and cooked fish from the ponds and creeks around over fires. We spent the day catching snakes in the creek or digging giant holes in the ground to make our forts. Basically, we had lots of fun and did not need consumer products like computers, tv, video etc etc. Doing all these things we learned how to do things and not get hurt in the process. We have made our society safer, but I often wonder if we damaged our view of life and living in the process. Somewhere along the line, while becoming safer, we became afraid to death of everything and made a rule to always blame someone else for our dumb decisions. To some degree that pushed companies to build dangerous things smarter and safer which is good - seatbelts were a novelty when we actually had them in cars, but a great idea for sure. But, people die and there is not way around that; but did they live while they could? Just my .02 on all that.


I just got back from visiting one of my friends at summer camp. This gal lacks the proverbial pot but has more in the way of TF than most any guy I know.

And the discussion does end up which of us has made the right choice. I've scrimped and saved and have a house and money. The only way she eats is because I put money on her account.

She lives on the edge. The joke is that when we go any where neither of us is wearing seat belts. Compared to her I'm chicken and do not want to ever spend another night in the stone hotel. But compared to the risk adverse society we live in I'm high risk.

We joke about who will be at who's funeral but at least both of have a lived a life worth dying.
 
I just got back from visiting one of my friends at summer camp. This gal lacks the proverbial pot but has more in the way of TF than most any guy I know.

And the discussion does end up which of us has made the right choice. I've scrimped and saved and have a house and money. The only way she eats is because I put money on her account.

She lives on the edge. The joke is that when we go any where neither of us is wearing seat belts. Compared to her I'm chicken and do not want to ever spend another night in the stone hotel. But compared to the risk adverse society we live in I'm high risk.

We joke about who will be at who's funeral but at least both of have a lived a life worth dying.
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