is an 8x10 better than two 4x10's

[kevinjack]

my guitar player thinks that my 8x10 is not as good as two 4x10's so i was wondering what the industry standard is?

 

[somegeezer]

Is no "industry standard". Use what you like. I prefer 2 410s though. Can always use just 1 for smaller gigs. Easier to move around too.

 

[KeithAlanK]

Maybe he's considering the impedance and how it'll affect your amp's output.
Details matter, so let's hear them.

 

[SpamBot]

410s are most often ported, and 810s are most often sealed, so if you want more low end the 410s will deliver. The lion's share of 810s are the Ampegs or similar, with a -3 around 60hz.

 

[fourstringburn]

my guitar player thinks that my 8x10 is not as good as two 4x10's so i was wondering what the industry standard is?

If both cabs are of the same design,with the same components, they should sound similar. One difference could be if both cabs are ported, the bigger cab in my opinion should have a lower frequency response.

However, speaking of 2 Ampeg cabs, the 810e and 410HLF are different. The 410 cab has a different ohm rating plus the Ampeg 410 has a high freq. horn and a lower and higher frequency response rating than the 810e.

Is one better than the other? I say it is a matter of personal preference. I still prefer the 810e myself though.

 

[kevinjack]

ok well my question is that i have an svt 4 pro and i just run it mono to my 8x10 so if i get two 4x10s will the power be the same?

 

[kevinjack]

Maybe he's considering the impedance and how it'll affect your amp's output.
Details matter, so let's hear them.

yeah thats what im wondering the most because i have very limited experience in the impedance area.

 

[fourstringburn]

depends on the impedance and if you run them stereo or plug them into one mono channel

 

[RFord04]

Your guitar player is ignorant. Play what you like, but if there was actually one you'd call an "industry standard," it would probably be the 8x10. Seems like 9 out of 10 rock bands have a fridge on stage.

 

[fourstringburn]

you can run 2 ohm loads into each side of your svt 4 pro. if you have 2 4 ohm cabs this will give you a 2 ohm load.

 

[fourstringburn]

what 410 are you considering?

 

[fourstringburn]

if you want more power into your 810 cab, run your 4 pro in bridged mono mode and that cab will blast out 1200watts.

YOU MUST USE THE SUPPLIED BRIDGED MONO CABLE IF YOU DO THIS OR HAVE ONE EASILY MADE UP FOR YOU!!!

 

[kevinjack]

410 hlf but i dont know if there is anything that is better and yes my guitar player is super ignorant. another thing is that when our band records i mike my bass amp so if i switch to a 410 would there be a sound difference?

 

[RFord04]

However, speaking of 2 Ampeg cabs, the 810e and 410HLF are different. The 410 cab has a different ohm rating...

Just to clarify, the 810 and 410HLF have the same ohm rating of 4 Ohms. However, stacking two 410HLFs would result in a different impedance of 2 Ohms.

 

[fourstringburn]

You can run up to 2 410 hlf on one stereo side and you still can run your 810 on the other side. Yes the 410 will sound different because it is a ported cab with a lower and higher freq. response.

 

[kevinjack]

Just to clarify, the 810 and 410HLF have the same ohm rating of 4 Ohms. However, stacking two 410HLFs would result in a different impedance of 2 Ohms.

so would a lower ohm rating better and why?

 

[RFord04]

A lower Ohm rating will draw more power from your amp, IF it is capable of handling it. A lot of solid state amps can't go below 4 ohms, and if you put a 2 ohm load on it, it will fry the amp. Your amp can handle it though I believe.

 

[Gerhn Blanston]

Seems like 9 out of 10 rock bands have a fridge on stage.

Monkey see, monkey do.

 

[fourstringburn]

basic ohms matching for cabs. Each cab added to another lowers the impedance by half of it's equal value.

example: plugging in 2- 8ohms equals a 4 ohm load

2- 4 ohm loads equals 2 ohms.

your amp is rated at 2 ohms per stereo side so this is safe but not all amps are rated below 4 ohms though. It is usually best to match cabs with the same impedance so you won't get odd impedance values like matching an 8 ohm with a 4 ohm for example.

When you decrease the impedance, most amps double the output power while spreading the wattage thru more speakers. this is an effective way to get more volume thru sound dispersement.

 

[kevinjack]

A lower Ohm rating will draw more power from your amp, IF it is capable of handling it. A lot of solid state amps can't go below 4 ohms, and if you put a 2 ohm load on it, it will fry the amp. Your amp can handle it though I believe.

yeah see i have the svt 4 pro and the only thing that i fully havent understood is the RMS power load like i have no idea what any of that means call me ignorant but thats just an confusing aspect of the amp so if anyone could help me with that two. my biggest thing with this is if i get a 410 could my amp handle it and if so could i close the ports on the cab so i get that 810 sound?