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Is art dead?

#81
Brendan said:
I wanna know when a piece of 3/4" pipe bent slightly to the left and painted red was considered art. Stupid modern/impresionistic art.

I blame it on Andy Warhol. Of course, I also blame Reality TV, a myriade of 3rd world economic problems, and Diet Coke w/ Lemon on Andy Warhol, so take that as you will.
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Actually, it was Marcel Duchamp that deserves the blame, with his piece "The Fountain", which is nothing more than a urinal that he signed. It started the whole "ready-made art" thing and questioned the whole idea of what art is, anyhow.

Here it is, in all it's artsy glory:


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#83
basstriaxis said:
Actually, it was Marcel Duchamp that deserves the blame, with his piece "The Fountain", which is nothing more than a urinal that he signed. It started the whole "ready-made art" thing and questioned the whole idea of what art is, anyhow.

Here it is, in all it's artsy glory:


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What we have here... is a failure to communicate. I'm talking about a pipe here, red by nature, bent slightly to the left.
 
#91
my feelings on this is that (remember i am history major's ) art was always underestimated... I don't think we relies great art until its like 100 years old and person is long died...

great art... lets c over 1000 past years or something there been handful of famous great artist that everyone knows about... probably on average 1 in lifetime (generation) so if we get one... we are in the average are we not? :] (yes I am taken bunch of philosophy classes too... that's why I sound like a dick) but something we talked about in phil class is "there are no new great ideas, all ideas are part of origenal ideas that allready been though off" I don't find it true and argued that against the teacher but if he is right then shouldent it be simular to art... no new ideas just anwsers and madification of those ideas in new form of art...

I've seen some modern art that is very good... but no one wants to look at it because its not worth jack crap... imo most of these art lovers couldn't tell painting from aim buddy icon... they just value the $$$ of it...

Any way... to make it shorter so you dont have to read above that you allready read... yes art is still alive and some stuff is very cool... you just got to look for it...

BTW photography is art too... is it not?
 
#92
Hmmm...

Well, there is no such thing as original thought or original ideas. All ideas have to come from somewhere.

I'll give you an example...I've been painting wildlife and nature for around 20 years or so. Ideas that suddenly "pop in to my head" are actually a collection of things I've seen and experienced over my lifetime.

They seem original in that I just now came up with the idea for a painting. But in reality, this "sudden" idea was sitting there all along and something just triggered it, like a certain color or shape, or even a new experience that reminded me of previous ones.

I think the real reason modern artists do what they do (and some are just a joke, like the urinal, the bent pipe, etc.) is that they are trying to be original. As in, look at this, no one has ever done this before!!! To which my response is, "Oh yeah? Then where did you get the idea from? The guy with the bent pipe probably saw a bent pipe one time in his life and it stuck in his subconcious.

The art that stands the test of time is representational art. As much as people seem to think "real" art needs to be weird to be considered great or original, it is exactly that which conveys meaning and emotion that will be considered great art.

Art snobs who think only modern art is art, are just deluding themselves and others.

I remember an artist that painted different colored bananas, set against different colored backgrounds. When art critics and reporters (who were discussing the inherent meaning in each of his works) asked him what his paintings represented, he replied..."Next month's rent."

That pretty much sums it up. Art only has meaning to those that see meaning in it. Art is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
 
#94
BrokenAngel said:
our favourite artist today is Mark Ryden - www.markryden.com/

we find his oil paintings truly inspirational. they are elegant, refined to the point of perfection and cute with just the right amount of the macabre and slightly sinister <33

his cheery bunnies, rendered in the glowing hues of children's books, are more likely to be carving slabs of meat rather than frolicking in the forest. ryden's work mingles superb technique with outre images to create a world of strange and disturbing beauty.

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Excellent. Quite amazing work.
 

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