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Is Deep Purple in the same league with Led Zeppelin?
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They never did get that airplane off...
I saw Purple in ‘74 as a teen. One of the most memorable concerts I’ve ever seen.
It was all this and more.
The opening bands were ELO and and unknown group called Elf.
The vocalist for Elf was none other than Ronnie James Dio.
We know what happened next
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I'll expand on my earlier comments way back on Page 1.
To me as a youth with a skull full of mush, I was never interested in anything by DP except the big hits. Highway Star, Smoke On The Water. The hits were great but they didn't compel me into further exploration. I think I had Machine Head on vinyl but none of the deeper tracks did anything for me.
Led Zeppelin was the exact opposite: Most every track on every album was and still is special to me. I had to listen to LZ albums in their entirety. Decades later I still do.
To me as a youth with a skull full of mush, I was never interested in anything by DP except the big hits. Highway Star, Smoke On The Water. The hits were great but they didn't compel me into further exploration. I think I had Machine Head on vinyl but none of the deeper tracks did anything for me.
Led Zeppelin was the exact opposite: Most every track on every album was and still is special to me. I had to listen to LZ albums in their entirety. Decades later I still do.
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These opinion type questions are impossible to answer, since everything is so subjective. If you asked something objective like who was more successful by the number of albums and marketing by the labels, then LZ definitely wins, but that doesn’t imply talent, creativity, or any number of things that are not necessarily related to commercial success. In a perfect world they would be, but you know things don’t always work like that.
Back at the time, I think I leaned a lot more towards Deep Purple. These days, it seems more like apples and oranges and depends on what you mean by “league”. They were both great bands, so just enjoy them both and don’t try to rank one over the other since you will find people dug very deeply into both camps that are more than entitled to their opinions and preferences.
Back at the time, I think I leaned a lot more towards Deep Purple. These days, it seems more like apples and oranges and depends on what you mean by “league”. They were both great bands, so just enjoy them both and don’t try to rank one over the other since you will find people dug very deeply into both camps that are more than entitled to their opinions and preferences.
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after perusing his wiki page, I stand behind it. He probably was at least as much of a catalystic personality to have in the studio as he’s noted to be, but AFAIC, the poor guy had a tin ear and the recordings suffered for it.
Maybe being cocaine-high diminishes how much midrange makes it from one’s ears to their brain? I’ve never used it.
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I sold a Speed King because it didn't squeak. (And because they're sized for youth size 8 feet)
No, just no. Not even close. First Maiden over Metallica and now Deep Purple close to Zeppelin? Its becoming clear that at least 50% of TB members are also AARP members.
Our keyboard player had a squeaky damper pedal that leaked into the drum mics. At times it was a novel effect, but most of the time it was something we tried but just couldn’t EQ out without affecting the drums too. It was only a home recording for a demo and it’s good we weren’t paying hourly rates at a studio.I'm glad those old studio recordings have that squeaky pedal!
It’s surprising that the audio engineer for LZ didn’t catch that right away and lube it up. Those guys are usually used to squeaky stools and other parts and any extraneous noises like foot tapping, especially when recording acoustic instruments. Most will do a quick test sound check and listen back for things like that before recording the actual track. It didn’t hurt the album sales, though.
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What's That Sound? The squeaky drum pedal on Led Zeppelin song 'Since I've Been Loving You'
"I found an alternative take on this matter [that it was a studio blunder] from some of the band’s biggest supporters.Invalid Link Removed, “I LOVE THAT SQUEAK! That squeak is one of my most favourite things about Led Zeppelin, period. I hope that squeak never gets edited out of ‘Since I’ve Been Loving You’, and I’ll tell you why. I never got to see John Bonham live, but if I close my eyes while I’m listening to that song, and I hear that squeak, it’s like I’m in the studio with them while he’s playing that song. It makes me feel like I am standing right next to him, even though I’m not. That squeak is very precious to me. Jimmy, please never edit that squeak out!”
While many agreed to it, another fan added: “The squeak is one of those things that adds flavour. Just like the telephone that rings during the Ocean. It is a blemish that adds to, rather than subtracts from the music. I am glad that no attempt has been made so far to remove these, and many other ‘faults’ from the studio work. To remove ‘imperfections’ is like a sad attempt at revisionism."
"I found an alternative take on this matter [that it was a studio blunder] from some of the band’s biggest supporters.Invalid Link Removed, “I LOVE THAT SQUEAK! That squeak is one of my most favourite things about Led Zeppelin, period. I hope that squeak never gets edited out of ‘Since I’ve Been Loving You’, and I’ll tell you why. I never got to see John Bonham live, but if I close my eyes while I’m listening to that song, and I hear that squeak, it’s like I’m in the studio with them while he’s playing that song. It makes me feel like I am standing right next to him, even though I’m not. That squeak is very precious to me. Jimmy, please never edit that squeak out!”
While many agreed to it, another fan added: “The squeak is one of those things that adds flavour. Just like the telephone that rings during the Ocean. It is a blemish that adds to, rather than subtracts from the music. I am glad that no attempt has been made so far to remove these, and many other ‘faults’ from the studio work. To remove ‘imperfections’ is like a sad attempt at revisionism."
Uh, original(and even slightly later)fans of all those bands are eligible for AARP membership.
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J-Lo vs Shakira? (there had better be a "both" option)
Dio was very important to Blackmore....finally a vocalist with 'operatic chops' not the crazy screaming of Gillian and Plant at times....i too caught Rainbow 'Dio era', just a brutally great performance and the kind of thing that really spearheaded the modern metal movement with singers with real chops.
To think how Dio went onto Sabbath and totally transformed their sound... and onto a smash solo debut with 'Holy Diver'.
Hard for me to choose Zep or Purple...i think they are fairly equal especially given the membership changes in Purple (especially bringing in Bolin, Hughes and Coverdale all legends to me).
Plants vocals at times are just laughable, otoh i love some of his solo work.
What was it like hearing/seeing Dio for the first time?
Very un-memorable
No one knew anything about him. He was an unknown
Electric Light Orchestra at least had their version of “Roll Over Beethoven” on the airwaves, so we knew a little about them.
Elf was an opening band that didn’t make much impact.
Notice the picture of Ronnie attempting to rally the audience from the first Rainbow LP.
This was Elf’s audience.
Not much reaction. This is how I remembered Elf’s set. Un-memorable
Well, I dislike Zep more. And since I don't like either then my increased dislike for Zep must mean they are the better band?Yes but which do you dislike *more*...
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Damn. I thought at least his voice would've made an impact. Maybe the music just wasn't that great. I don't know. I've never heard any of the Elf stuff before.
