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Is interest in live music declining?

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Young people (let's say all under 40) do things differently now. They don't go out as often, but when they do they want more/better/original. This counts for food, drinks, music, everything discretionary income related.

Instead of going to a $50/couple casual restaurant every Friday and Saturday, they'll go to a nicer place once every two weeks and spend $120.

Instead of drinking PBR every night they'll have craft beer once a week.

Instead of listening to a cover band try to sound like a recording, they'll pay more to go to a big concert less often.

That last one is the most important. The way people consume music has changed. Straight cover bands are from a time when music was harder to access. So it made sense for people to go out to hear music played well. Now they can literally listen to any song ever recorded, and almost anything ever filmed at a live show by the original artist, at a moment's notice on their phone or computer or TV at home. They don't have to wait for you to play it, or drive to a record store. They have instant gratification.

You have to give them something different, something better. Playing covers exactly as recorded is a dead end. That is easily replaced by a DJ. What you do has to be more interesting, or else you're going to be stuck playing classic rock in nursing homes.

PS: I live for the day when Black Sabbath is blaring from the rec room at the retirement home and old folks in wheel chairs and walkers are nodding their heads, saying: "ahh, the good old days, why I remember when..." and considering people who were 20 when their first album came out are 68 now, that should start in the next 5 years or so.
 
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I'm coming off my busiest Spring/Summer in 7 years with my current project. No Live Music is alive & well..
No one is handing us anything, It's harder work than ever though.. & it's about going where the work is & staying within our musical niche.
The trend has shifted to the highest % being Private Parties/Events over the years & less of Bars/Restaurants.(Which is a OK!)

What kind of music is the OP performing?.. Is it marketable?.. Are you marketing it?..Who is the demographic you are appealing to?

Are you willing to change your strategy in order to be successful?
 
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Some more things to consider....
Instead of drinking PBR every night they'll have craft beer once a week.

Instead of listening to a cover band try to sound like a recording, they'll pay more to go to a big concert less often.

That last one is the most important. The way people consume music has changed. Straight cover bands are from a time when music was harder to access. So it made sense for people to go out to hear music played well. Now they can literally listen to any song ever recorded, and almost anything ever filmed at a live show by the original artist, at a moment's notice on their phone or computer or TV at home. They don't have to wait for you to play it, or drive to a record store. They have instant gratification.

You have to give them something different, something better. Playing covers exactly as recorded is a dead end. That is easily replaced by a DJ. What you do has to be more interesting, or else you're going to be stuck playing classic rock in nursing homes.

PS: I live for the day when Black Sabbath is blaring from the rec room at the retirement home and old folks in wheel chairs and walkers are nodding their heads, saying: "ahh, the good old days, why I remember when..." and considering people who were 20 when their first album came out are 65 now, that should start in the next 5 years or so.

Hahaha! Last month I was setting up to do a 1 hr set in a beautiful Retirement home, the canned music I heard was an excellent studio band covering rock classics, "White Room" & "Helter Skelter" both came up, I was shock & awed & suddenly felt old!!
 
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Yes I feel it’s declined in my area. Most clubs we do ok in but last weekend the place we play bombed. We had good crowds there at times but others gigs its dead. Between no smoking and DUI issues more people stay home today. Even when we get good crowds they hit the doors before the last set.
 
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YEs interest in paying for music is on the decline both sales of recorded and live . The chart below shows recorded but the same trend for live music. There has been a slight uptick in the last few years.
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YEs interest in paying for music is on the decline both sales of recorded and live . The chart below shows recorded but the same trend for live music. There has been a slight uptick in the last few years.
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I started gigging as a living in the early 90s, and this chart totally coincides with my experience. Started moving away from music for my income in the early 2000s, but have kept playing semi-regularly throughout. And it's been pretty much a long-term downtrend for nearly 20 years.
 
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These are both true.

Much like @hrodbert696 beats his drum in these threads, I'll beat mine.


The problem is us. We (by "we" I mean most local cover bands) show up with no lights, dressed like we just got done cutting our grass, and put on no SHOW whatsoever.

We are NOT ..... I repeat NOT..... in the "music business". We are in the ENTERTAINMENT business. They can get music from a computer. They don't need you for that.

Dress the part. Set up lights. Move around. Engage your audience. You'll get more gigs than you want.

Wear a tucked in Fender T-shirt and white New Balance sneakers on stage, set up no lights, put in no show, play the same old crap everyone else has butchered in bars for forty years and continue to start threads like these.

Short version. Yes, the number of people who want to go to a bar and see boring old guys play old guy music and act/look like old guys has dwindled.
These friends of mine have no problem finding work. Adding 100% validity to your response. :hyper:
Past Action Heroes 80s and 90s cover band
 
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In addition to what @lz4005 said above, I think the younger generation is generally less impressed with musicianship these days. There's plenty of resources available online, not to mention video games that can tech a person how to play an instrument. It doesn't appear to be all that rare of a talent set or hard to learn from a non-musician's point of view.

Also, there is easy access to audio workstation/tracking software which is becoming easier and easier to use and I get the impression that arts and music appreciation isn't really taught much in schools anymore.

They just don't see the "magic" in it like most of us did when we were young.
 
A lot of bands, including mine, around here play a mix of covers and originals. This is due to the fact that the bars here don't often do showcase style one hour sets for bands. We are required to play from 9:30-1:30, and it's hard to do all originals for three straight sets.

And yes, even though we are a mostly cover band, we do have a following. Even though it is less than it used to be, people still come out to see us. I just want it to be more people.

If you want to build a following, as an originals band, playing live in a small town is the worst way to do it. You need to do that by recording and getting your material on the internet. If you want to build a following as a cover band, you may need to ditch the originals altogether during your live shows.
 
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In my area, there is NEVER a shortage of Trop Rock and Classic Rock cover bands...
Snowbird City.
In my area, what kills it for even the Trop Rockers are the people with an acoustic, pre-recorded Karoke tracks, a laptop/Smart phone, and a speaker. 3-4 hours for at/below $75 bucks. ...and the birds LOVE them.
Location location location.
Another commentor above NAILED it for the most part.Keep your chin-up, and keep pushing and chasing the stone. But whatever you do..do NOT pick-up a 12 string, load a smart phone, buy a speaker, and give in to the "Dark side of the force"!!! LOL
;)
Good luck!
...and the "crowds" and "singer"/guitarist are tone deaf to boot.
 
I dunno. I literally would never go out to see a cover band. But that was also true (probably more so) of me 20 years ago, and I realize I am not representative of the "public." If you ask me, the interest in live original local or regional music is the same as it has always been (very little). But I play it anyway.
 
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If you want to build a following, as an originals band, playing live in a small town is the worst way to do it. You need to do that by recording and getting your material on the internet. If you want to build a following as a cover band, you may need to ditch the originals altogether during your live shows.

This. Your audience is not the people in the room these days, though they can be a part of it. You should be thinking of any live show as an opportunity to create marketing materials to put online that will reach a larger audience. if you want to be a cover band, you're going to need to be a dance band and/or a country band because that's about the only thing that gets play and pay these days in a live setting.

Also, no set list? You really need to up your game. Noodling within long spaces between songs is a real amateur move. You should have a set list and you should be rehearsing your set and the transitions between songs before each show so that your song transitions are smooth and brief. That's part of how you keep the audience engaged.
 
This topic seems to come up rather frequently on TB and many people have made great points. Here are some other thoughts.

1- The last time guitar driven music was popular in the mainstream was the 90s grunge era. The dominant form of music now for the younger 21-30 something crowd is rap and electronic stuff which does not translate well to a band situation, thus the popularity of DJs. Yes bands still exist but their popularity has dropped. I would imagine this is how a clarinet player might have felt in the big band era when all of a sudden Chuck Berry showed up and all the kids wanted to play and hear guitar music.

2- To that above point, Young kids have the most time on their hand and are still interested in partying so to speak...and young kids generally aren't interested in going to a dive bar on a Saturday to listen to people not their age..maybe even older then their parents play classic rock like Skynrd and Brown Eyed Girl. They want to hear what is "modern" to them. I would imagine if a young band could pull off the rap and electronic stuff they could be popular.

3-As others have mentioned, you need to find a town/area that has a demographic that supports live bands...retirement communities for instance.
 
One other point I'd make is that I'm not 100% sure this is the correct question. I think the question really is more like, "are people less interested in going out than they used to be?"

I'd say the answer to that question is probably yes. Going down to the local bar for a bite and a drink used to be the alternative to a night spent watching reruns on TV or reading a book. Maybe you'd choose to go to the bar that had the best band, since you were chasing away boredom by going out, anyway.

Nowadays there are lots of in-home entertainment choices. I think it takes a lot more to motivate someone to get up off their butt and come out to a venue than it used to. It's no longer a matter of simple boredom and relief. You have to have something compelling to offer to make people want to go to all the effort it takes to actually go to a club these days.
 
I need some insight on this subject. This is probably going to be a long post, so bear with me.

To start, I'll give you some background:
I moved to my current town about ten years ago. It's a touristy kind of town of about 11,000. Very popular with retirees, so there is money in the town, and real estate prices have stayed stable and actually risen quite a bit. There's a small college in the town as well. The surrounding area is very rural, but there's a moderately sized city about an hour away, about 75,000 in population.

When I first started playing in bands here ten years ago, we would do two-nighters at a local bar, which was very much a dirty dive. We would rotate in every month or two, and on a good night there would easily be 100+ people in there, and on an off night there would be 40-60. I'm just guessing on numbers, but the point is, we had decent crowds for pretty much any live music, at least to the point where it was worth it for the bar to hire us.

Sadly, I have watched the crowds slowly declining over the years, and the last five have been absolutely dismal. The last few times I've played the aforementioned bar, an outstanding night was 40 people and a bad night we would play for the bartenders and the five drunks wandering through after getting kicked out of the other bars. Since then, that bar has all but given up on having bands, and the other bar in town doing live music only has bands once a month. So I went from playing in town one or two weekends a month to playing once or twice a SEASON.

It is almost pointless to try to book gigs in the bigger town an hour away, because nobody has ever cared about live bands in that town, to the point where I've often felt kind of bad that the venue even had to pay us.

So.... even though the college is growing and the town is growing, our crowds for all bands across the board, regardless of genre, have been shrinking. The only bands having some degree of success are the ones playing street dances either with country or top 40 rock radio stuff.

Has anyone else noticed this, or is this a unique thing to the area? Also, what can be done to lure people out to see live music again??

The answer is yes. The competition is streaming music that you can get for basically free in your own home. Secondly, a lot of today’s popular music is not written to be performed live, the reason the Beatles stopped touring. Finally, DUI enforcement pretty much killed the bar band scene, that also put a significant dent in the Saturday Morning Obituary section in the paper.

Until we musicians come up with a compelling “why us?”, we are not going back to the “Good Old Days” anytime soon.
 
DUI laws, high liability insurance, karaoke, trivia, MTV, and the internet have all reduced the crowds at live music venues in the last couple of decades IMO. I play in an acoustic original band and we can play at just about any brew pub in town as long as we play for beer, food and tips. I think to make a living playing music you have to be young, hungry and talented. Good luck for old geezers like me. Luckily I don’t need the money to pay mortgage. I make enough to buy a new bass once in a while.
 
I need some insight on this subject. This is probably going to be a long post, so bear with me.

To start, I'll give you some background:
I moved to my current town about ten years ago. It's a touristy kind of town of about 11,000. Very popular with retirees, so there is money in the town, and real estate prices have stayed stable and actually risen quite a bit. There's a small college in the town as well. The surrounding area is very rural, but there's a moderately sized city about an hour away, about 75,000 in population.

When I first started playing in bands here ten years ago, we would do two-nighters at a local bar, which was very much a dirty dive. We would rotate in every month or two, and on a good night there would easily be 100+ people in there, and on an off night there would be 40-60. I'm just guessing on numbers, but the point is, we had decent crowds for pretty much any live music, at least to the point where it was worth it for the bar to hire us.

Sadly, I have watched the crowds slowly declining over the years, and the last five have been absolutely dismal. The last few times I've played the aforementioned bar, an outstanding night was 40 people and a bad night we would play for the bartenders and the five drunks wandering through after getting kicked out of the other bars. Since then, that bar has all but given up on having bands, and the other bar in town doing live music only has bands once a month. So I went from playing in town one or two weekends a month to playing once or twice a SEASON.

It is almost pointless to try to book gigs in the bigger town an hour away, because nobody has ever cared about live bands in that town, to the point where I've often felt kind of bad that the venue even had to pay us.

So.... even though the college is growing and the town is growing, our crowds for all bands across the board, regardless of genre, have been shrinking. The only bands having some degree of success are the ones playing street dances either with country or top 40 rock radio stuff.

Has anyone else noticed this, or is this a unique thing to the area? Also, what can be done to lure people out to see live music again??


For me I like live music, but I hate bars
 
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