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Is it abuse?

Not abuse. But I guarantee that we are from vastly different areas of the US and have very different beliefs.

I see nothing wrong with the soap in mouth or spanking. But I also support the death penalty.
 
I think there are probably more effective ways to teach the lesson for the most part, but that one is far from abuse in my opinion.


I remember a teacher doing it to a student at school when I was a kid. I doubt that would go down well these days, he totally needed it though.
 
It may not be the most effective method, but it's WAAAAAAY more effective than what a lot of kids today get (or don't get is a better way to put it.) too many parents let their kids walk all over them. Just the idea that kids might face consequences for acting up around some adults is surprising to some of those kids. They will try to find out whose buttons they can push and how far they can go with it.
 
Why is that exactly? I've never understood why some behaviors are ok in the past but not now, and I'm not talking about extreme changes.

The short, nonacademic answer: Society changes.

The long, academic answer: Culture is socially constructed, and with that, accepted behavioral norms go through transistions. Begin by reading some of the constructionist/antipositivists sociologists and anthropologists such as Max Weber. Then read some of the post-structuralists like Foucault.

More on topic, I had a feeling there would be some Christmas Story references in this thread, and TB, you didn't fail to deliver. :D Some men are Baptists, others Catholics; my father was an Oldsmobile man.
 
The short, nonacademic answer: Society changes.

The long, academic answer: Culture is socially constructed, and with that, accepted behavioral norms go through transistions. Begin by reading some of the constructionist/antipositivists sociologists and anthropologists such as Max Weber. Then read some of the post-structuralists like Foucault.

More on topic, I had a feeling there would be some Christmas Story references in this thread, and TB, you didn't fail to deliver. :D Some men are Baptists, others Catholics; my father was an Oldsmobile man.

That presumes a belief in relativistic morality. Society may have differing opinions on specific acts, but I would argue that does not change their inherint morality. Even when the culture endorses slavery or pedophilia etc they're still wrong.
 

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