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[51PRI]

I am particularly fond of Buddy Guy as a performer. One of his trademarks is how he does a killer guitar solo - he brings the band down to almost a whisper and plays a gut-wrenching solo so quitely. You hear every note, every nuance - it slays the audience. It’s far more emotionally powerful than the screaming leads you most often hear.

There’s a lot of value in lower volumes.

Yes, he DOES use that technique, but most of the show Buddy Guy plays freakin' LOUD, too.

100% in agreement with your thoughts on this. However the difficulty is dealing with others that may not agree.

Expecially a guitar player who wants to play his amp in it's "sweet spot" which is way too loud for the band. The other night the sound man asked him to turn his bass down because it was conflicting with my bass guitar. Hmmm....

"Enter Sandman" at lounge act levels, just seems wrong

Sometimes a hard rock song can be adapted for a cool lounge act sound:

 

[Artman]

27333906[/URL], member: 300456"]Hey. I wasn't seriously even thinking about going that route, but now the guitarist and drummer in my prog band are wanting to make the jump to IEMs for rehearsals, at least. Quick question, if I may. Do you find any ear discomfort at all, with the level of the music being pumped directly into your ears from the IEMs? This is something that I've always wondered about.

With good sound isolating iem buds, no bass bass cabs or floor wedges on stage, and only one very small 112 guitar cab on stage, the sound pressure level in my ears is significantly lower than not wearing iems. I can hear every part with absolute clarity and it is not loud at all. Very low volume. I could make it loud, but I do not have to, so I don’t.

The more stage volume you have to block out, the more crucial the seal and isolation of your buds will be, and the louder you will probably have to turn them up, but then again I won’t play with unnecessarily loud people anymore anyway.
If your drummer doesn’t control his volume, and your guitar players are cranking up marshall stacks, even the best iems can only block out so much noise before you have to turn them up.

I have triple flange isolating seals on my in ears. They seal and isolate really well, but I am having custom molded sleeves made for them which will isolate even better with greater physical comfort.

Edit: One more thing. If you want to speak to each other, you have to use a mic. With properly fitting iems, you cannot hear someone talking even standing right in front of you in a quiet room. They have to speak into a mic.

 

[basseux]

And yet: The minimum amp wattage for gig according to TB amp recommendation threads is 500 watt.

It's the only way to silence drums and guitar and make them understand they have all to gain playing less loud.

 

[mahsidivad]

Charlie Haden suffered from hyperacoustics, where small club, acoustic jazz stage levels were unbearable. It got to the point where he wore earplugs and was isolated within plexiglass dividers.

I learned early on that writing/ rehearsing at low volume improves the dynamics and interplay between players. Once everyone has that down, add volume appropriate for the situation.

 

[Chris_will_do]

I can't play at moderate levels since we have 2 guitarplayers being guitarplayers. Even the bluesbharpplayer got him a 4x10 bluesharpamp.

 

[micguy]

27334737[/URL], member: 266374"]Yes, he DOES use that technique, but most of the show Buddy Guy plays freakin' LOUD, too.

Most of the time he’s playing somewhere in between. He absolutely does LoUD , but only at certain points - just like he does super quiet at times, but only at certain points. A lot of bands do loud and kinda soft, but nothing in between. Real dynamics, which you rarely hear, has a LOT of levels to it.

 

[woody357]

I can't play at moderate levels since we have 2 guitarplayers being guitarplayers. Even the bluesbharpplayer got him a 4x10 bluesharpamp.

To solve this problem you should get two eight tens and make the band call you daddy! Hahahahahaha

 

[2thAche]

We practice once a month or so acoustic. I'll usually grab a fretless or acoustic bass. Nowhere to hide vocal or instrumental flaws, it helps in many ways.

 

[FenderMeBass]

Hey. I wasn't seriously even thinking about going that route, but now the guitarist and drummer in my prog band are wanting to make the jump to IEMs for rehearsals, at least. Quick question, if I may. Do you find any ear discomfort at all, with the level of the music being pumped directly into your ears from the IEMs? This is something that I've always wondered about.

I never had tinitus till i got IEM. Now im screwed. That mix has to be good.

 

[Michedelic]

I never had tinitus till i got IEM. Now im screwed. That mix has to be good.

Oh, the irony…
Sound Science: Pete Townshend Blames Headphones for Hearing Loss

 

[Beej]

One of my bands uses IEMs exclusively for everything, and I love it. I can hear everything adjust levels as needed and generally am able to keep things much lower overall compared to monitors.