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Is punk dead?
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I was in high school when punk was still something that only rebelous listened too, that was a few years ago! lol
Todd
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Punk isn't dead, but Darby Crash is. We won't ever see it on the scale it was when it was new and revolutionary, and we will have to contend with the post punk hot topic crowd, as well as the watering down of the good punk acts like Rancid, NOFX and others of their ilk, or the occasional coming to the front of pop culture that brings us this fall out boy blink 182, crap. But put "liberal animation" "lets go" or "dark days" on and you can easily show the modern "punk" crowd that it can be better produced and more polished than a Plasmatix record without selling out completely.
Any time bands are concidered punk based solely on their tatoos and dress code and not their music that is an indication that punk is pretty dead IMO. Artists like Averil Lavigne, Sum 41, and Good Charlotte for the most part dont make music that sounds much different than pop bands like Jimmy Eat World, Blur, and Weaser. The entire basis for them being labled and marketed as punk is their image. This has happened before though, IE Billy Idol, and it has a way dieing out and re- emergin from the underground a few years later as something once again worth listening to.
To my mind the Mid To late 90's were the golden age of punk. The underground was bursting with awesome bands that were exploring their own sounds and nobody was making much money doing it so there wasnt much reason for everyone to cash in on the same sound. No Use For A Name, Face to Face, Ten Foot Pole, and Good Riddance were some of my favorites and I could go see them without breaking a ten bill. AFI despite its previouse and subsequent mediocrety managed to put out what I concider two of the best punk albums ever recorded, Black Sails and The Art of Drowning. Then Blink 182 popped up and everything went to hell.
If anyone wants to check out a band that always has and still does make some intense punk check out Death By Sterio. They sound sort of avenged sevenfoldish with the shredding and the odd beats but I heard them at least 5 years befor I ever heard of avenged sevenfold.
To my mind the Mid To late 90's were the golden age of punk. The underground was bursting with awesome bands that were exploring their own sounds and nobody was making much money doing it so there wasnt much reason for everyone to cash in on the same sound. No Use For A Name, Face to Face, Ten Foot Pole, and Good Riddance were some of my favorites and I could go see them without breaking a ten bill. AFI despite its previouse and subsequent mediocrety managed to put out what I concider two of the best punk albums ever recorded, Black Sails and The Art of Drowning. Then Blink 182 popped up and everything went to hell.
If anyone wants to check out a band that always has and still does make some intense punk check out Death By Sterio. They sound sort of avenged sevenfoldish with the shredding and the odd beats but I heard them at least 5 years befor I ever heard of avenged sevenfold.
I would have to say that, MAYBE, JUST MAYBE with the exception of the Ramones, punk was born dead, and always has been.
Judging on a musical standpoint, punk is really the musical equivalent of what you'd find in a dumpster. Really, I mean, has punk ever been more than banging five or less chords around on stage, with "rebellious" lyrics? Whatever it is, be it true punk or modern pop poser rock (and so on), I have no respect for it as a genre of music.
As Roger Waters once said, "The...'great' thing about punk music is that it gives people with no right making music the ability to be famous 'musicians'.
Judging on a musical standpoint, punk is really the musical equivalent of what you'd find in a dumpster. Really, I mean, has punk ever been more than banging five or less chords around on stage, with "rebellious" lyrics? Whatever it is, be it true punk or modern pop poser rock (and so on), I have no respect for it as a genre of music.
As Roger Waters once said, "The...'great' thing about punk music is that it gives people with no right making music the ability to be famous 'musicians'.
OK, here goes....Punk in the UK during the mid 70's was really a political/social statement. I won't get into it here, but it was an attitude that really needed to be brought forward, and our music was the perfect format. The fashions and hairstyles that came with it were, for better or for worse, all part of that. In America here, it seemed to lack the anger, but was good none the less. Today, alot of bands just want the look, and seem to forget that the music was angry music, and the lyrics were angry lyrics. Like 'a1bassguy' said, punk has evolved, and there is nothing wrong with that. A certain Mr. Lydon once said, "Then, I was an angry young man, now I'm an angry old man.....but I'm still angry!" As long as we keep that feeling, punk will never die!
Punk's not dead...just smells like.
Sorry, I had to
LOL!!!!! Old punks never die....they just smell that way!!!
Punk was never really a sound, anyway, it was an attitude.
However, I think the endless classification, reclassification, and genre-elitism is about as far from "punk" as you can get.
However, I think the endless classification, reclassification, and genre-elitism is about as far from "punk" as you can get.
So, I just have to say something in defense of Good Charlotte, and its a bit of a side rant re: punk in general. I don't really like them, but, hell, the Maddens have at least struggled some in their life, and gone without. I can guarantee 90% of the kids who complain about how "unpunk" GC are living very comfortable, boring, typical suburban, middle-class lives. I can say this with some confidence because I was one, and looking back on it, it is a huge waste of time. GC are tacky and pretty trashy, but when you don't have anything, you end up wanting everything, and I don't begrudge them for that, even though I think they look stupid. And anyway there are 80 billion other things in the world that are more important than how they make you feel. And when you stop caring about stuff like that, it is amazing how free you feel.
I would say the same about the other bands in the article, though I think its pretty disgusting how Green Day rips off Dillinger Four and Fifteen and meanwhile Jeff Ott can't find a place to live.
And as for the punk being dead...yes and no, depends on what you mean by "punk". There are still punk shows, and they're generally ok, but most of the world has taken the best parts and moved on.
I would say the same about the other bands in the article, though I think its pretty disgusting how Green Day rips off Dillinger Four and Fifteen and meanwhile Jeff Ott can't find a place to live.
And as for the punk being dead...yes and no, depends on what you mean by "punk". There are still punk shows, and they're generally ok, but most of the world has taken the best parts and moved on.
The funny part is, probably all of the bands/singers listed in that terrible article would most likely refer to themselves as "rock" if asked the question. I don't think any would say "oh yeah, we're sooo punk!." Its usually a media label.
And besides, the same exact thing has happened to both rap and country. They've been mainstreamed, modernized, simplified, and overproduced to a greedy populace eager for the watered-down genres. I have no one to blame for all 3 except the people themselves that buy in. Not that I blame anyone, anyways.
And besides, the same exact thing has happened to both rap and country. They've been mainstreamed, modernized, simplified, and overproduced to a greedy populace eager for the watered-down genres. I have no one to blame for all 3 except the people themselves that buy in. Not that I blame anyone, anyways.
punk isn't dead, you just have to look. if those bands are that guy's idea of punk music, he is pathetic. green day, yeah at one point i'd say were punk. the rest, nope. my idea of punk is ramones, sex pistols, bad brains, dead kennedys, etc. talkin bout skaterboys and lifestyles of the rich and famous isn't punk in my book! its still alive, in bands like pennywise, antiflag, rancid, nofx etc. maybe if this guy would stop watching mtv and look to the underground music scene i think he'll find more punk groups then he thinks.
LONG LIVE PUNK!!!
LONG LIVE PUNK!!!
