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Is their a low gain Muff

If you want lower gain or less distortion you could increase the resistance in the three emitter resistors or patch where a few diodes were.
Less gain(more resistance for the emitter resisters)
Less distortion(remove on of the clipping stages;patch where one pair of diodes were)

And like wise if you want more gain you decrease the resistance on the emitters, and you could swoop diodes(which may or may not work depending.)
If you're not cool about soldering and don't wanta risk burning your transistors(like i used to,lol) you could get a tech to mod a big muff or just get a proco rat, they can achieve a less gainy muff tone. I sat down at a guitar shop with a USA Big muff pi and a proco rat. I compared them side by side, they could dial in the same sound, it was noon or one o'clock on the rat and a low gain setting on the big muff, i like that tone, and to get a big muff just to use it with the sustain knob way back felt wrong, lol.
good luck man, I know the exact tone you want, Ehx makes a new pedal called the bass blogger, it sorta has a slow gain muff tone, but it's its own thing.
 
Flymo Wang said:
i know what you mean mr ampegfuzz - my favourite muff sounds are with the sustain right down, and i often wish there was a fuzz pedal that focussed on that very low gain end of things!!
currently my only muff is a grey stache,and that's dead nice with sustain at zero as Ry says.
what about a wren and cuff tall font? that's lower gain and from experience i had some great tones at minimum gain from a W&C tri pie

I use my bass blogger for just that, it's low gain setting is vast, the overdrive "channel" of it can get you a low gain almost transparent sounding fuzz if you use a pick. With fingers or just tone rolled off the overdrive setting can get light fuzz. And the fuzz channel takes off right where the overdrive channel ends. So you have light distortion to high gain fuzz(not nearly as high as a swollen pickle or a USA big muff)
 
Low gain muffs:

Supa Tone Bender is a muff varient. The current Colorsound Bass Fuzz is one, as is the Skreddy SupaTone.

But just keep in mind that these actually have as many gain stages as a muff. The differences is that there is only one stage with clipping diodes (versus 2 in a regular muff). This allows for more dynamics and a less compressed tone. It is supposed to sound killer for bass but I wouldn't call it a low gain muff.
 
Well regardless I'm trying to find a tone that will make my rig sound like Electric Wizard's "dopethrone" in a ped. It wont be a all the time thing just for certain tunes.

Try a DOD250/MXR Distortion+/Ross Distortion and boost the bass a little on your head to compensate. That's my main distortion sound at the moment.