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Is there a difference between Yoopers and Canadians?

#61
L-A said:
"Nort" ? Even in french it's written Nord, and the D is completely silent. So, no.
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L-A

You probably know that French doesn't have an equivalent of English's "th" (neither kind -- there are two).
When a French Canadian says north in English (and if they they struggle with pronunciation), the th in north comes out roughly "nort". Same with "tink" for think.

That's for aspirated "th". For non-aspirated "th" like in the and that, it usually comes out as "d".

Which is pretty interesting, actually, since the French from France usually transpose "the" to "za", & "that" to "zat".
Not so in Canada! Most Québecois transpose "the" to "da", & "that" to "dat". Who knows why!
 
#62
Órale!
I'm a transplant from the great state of Illinois, living in the Upper peninsula of Mich (my wife's barrio) since 87'. Yes, my wife and just about everybody here has that "Yah der Hey" way of talking, much different from my "Latino, South-west side dialect" Had to play translator one time back home between my wife and a gal that worked at Popeye's chicken cause she could'nt quite understand my honey's "Accent" :confused: And I'm the one who talk's funny here???

P.S., There are lot's of fellow Bears' bretheren here!
 
#63
Not wanting to stereotype our brother francophones, I'll just add that many French Canadians speak excellent, unaccented English -- about a zillion times more than there are English Canadians who speak decent French! Much to our anglophone shame.
 
#64
I can't comment much on the Canadian dialect, but as a guy born and raised in Hancock, MI, one of the last stands of permanent residency that far north in the UP, I can attest that the accent is, in fact, as ridiculous as you have been told.

Ya der, eh? Don'cha know?
Pasty, is pronounced like past-e, not paste-e.
Needa cana Shkoal?
Ur peckin' gee!
You gun go shhtore? Gun go Walmart? (lots of dropped "the"s)
HOLY WAH!
Ya guy, were gun get us shum Dewskies!

Yes, Canadians are WAY more liberal and own far fewer guns.
There is no point in going to the UP unless you like trees, hiking, or snow.
If you DO go to the UP, the Keweenaw Peninsula in particular, you should go to Suomi Restaurant in Houghton. (prononuced Hote-in, with a very, VERY soft T sound from the back of your throat).
What you call a 'lake' pales in comparison to Lake Superior.
My wife is from the LP, and has never heard of a fudgie, and lived north of M55. She's a troll, and all Lower Peninsulites are trolls.
I get very upset when people from the LP say they're "Going up north", and that means going north of Standish, but NOT to the UP.

I don't have the accent, but if there's enough interest I'd be willing to imitate and record it for the world to see.
 
#68
TheEmptyCell said:
I can't comment much on the Canadian dialect, but as a guy born and raised in Hancock, MI, one of the last stands of permanent residency that far north in the UP, I can attest that the accent is, in fact, as ridiculous as you have been told.

Ya der, eh? Don'cha know? (Only out of staters say that or it's said in jest)
Pasty, is pronounced like past-e, not paste-e. (that's right)
Needa cana Shkoal? (Ya)
Ur peckin' gee! (????)
You gun go shhtore? Gun go Walmart? (lots of dropped "the"s)
HOLY WAH! (More said in jest anymore)
Ya guy, were gun get us shum Dewskies! (ya guy???)

Yes, Canadians are WAY more liberal and own far fewer guns.

There is no point in going to the UP unless you like trees, hiking, or snow. (And don't you all forget it. If you're looking for anything else, go somewhere else. ;) )

If you DO go to the UP, the Keweenaw Peninsula in particular, you should go to Suomi Restaurant in Houghton. (prononuced Hote-in, with a very, VERY soft T sound from the back of your throat).
What you call a 'lake' pales in comparison to Lake Superior.
My wife is from the LP, and has never heard of a fudgie, and lived north of M55. She's a troll, and all Lower Peninsulites are trolls.
I get very upset when people from the LP say they're "Going up north", and that means going north of Standish, but NOT to the UP.

I don't have the accent, but if there's enough interest I'd be willing to imitate and record it for the world to see.
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Lot's of jokes are made about the way we talk here but for the most part, it's like nothing you've ever heard. :D
 
#77
pbasswil said:
While I have a cajun boy handy, tell me: Down there, do you guys say Loo-ee Armstrong? That's how we Québecers would normally pronounce Louis; but so often in the press you hear Loo-iss.
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I'm not actually cajun. My family was in Louisiana (Loo-z-anna) before they got here. "Loo-ee should be the correct pronunciation of his name, although others with the same name pronounce it "Loo-iss". Get down and visit a while. We're havin' a couchon du lait and de beers is col'.
 
#78
pbasswil said:
L-A

You probably know that French doesn't have an equivalent of English's "th" (neither kind -- there are two).
When a French Canadian says north in English (and if they they struggle with pronunciation), the th in north comes out roughly "nort". Same with "tink" for think.

That's for aspirated "th". For non-aspirated "th" like in the and that, it usually comes out as "d".

Which is pretty interesting, actually, since the French from France usually transpose "the" to "za", & "that" to "zat".
Not so in Canada! Most Québecois transpose "the" to "da", & "that" to "dat". Who knows why!
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Ah, if you meant pronouncing "North" in english, then you're absolutely right. People around here will say "Nort".

Dat's how we say eet.

French canadian kids are taught to start by saying "d" instead of "th" (De man witt de golden gun). French kids seem to start from "z" (Ze man wiss ze golden gun) and hopefully, people migrate to "th" as they learn more english. Of course, most don't.
 
#79
pbasswil said:
L-A

You probably know that French doesn't have an equivalent of English's "th" (neither kind -- there are two).
When a French Canadian says north in English (and if they they struggle with pronunciation), the th in north comes out roughly "nort". Same with "tink" for think.

That's for aspirated "th". For non-aspirated "th" like in the and that, it usually comes out as "d".

Which is pretty interesting, actually, since the French from France usually transpose "the" to "za", & "that" to "zat".
Not so in Canada! Most Québecois transpose "the" to "da", & "that" to "dat". Who knows why!
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.it is said that quebec french is sort of frozen in time as they are relatively isolated,while french french has been blended with other european dialects and has been subjected to more changes....
 

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