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is there such a thing as a unsuitable cab?

#44
brendanbassist said:
Interesting...
XF Guitar Cabs

"The XF is available as the XF210 for two tens, the XF212 for two twelves, and the four driver XF410 and XF412."
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If someone wants to build a cab with four twelves in a two over two configuration the least I can do is provide them with the means to do it properly. Whether they actually need four twelves is another question entirely, to which I will always answer: No.
 
#47
Our lead player uses a Boogie Mark I, and seems to be able to get any sound, including great feedback sounds, from one measly 12in. speaker. I can also make any of the bass players who've used my PJB BG800 happy with the tone they get from it. A little tweaking with the EQ and it works great for the slap sounds or the vintage tones. Knowing how to use your rig has always been the key.
 
#48
countrybass007 said:
Our lead player uses a Boogie Mark I, and seems to be able to get any sound, including great feedback sounds, from one measly 12in. speaker. I can also make any of the bass players who've used my PJB BG800 happy with the tone they get from it. A little tweaking with the EQ and it works great for the slap sounds or the vintage tones. Knowing how to use your rig has always been the key.
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that's a good point. I posit that many guitar players simply don't know how to use their rig. This isn't from being stupid, far from it. Instead there's not a lot of information available at the point of purchase in terms of how to use a tube amp correctly (to be clear, all arguments about tube or SS bass amps, IMO a guitar player ought to be using a tube amp - unless they are going for that squeaky clean tone you get from a roland cube or jazz chorus.)
 
#49
billfitzmaurice said:
In terms of output one twelve is all you need for any stage, and for that matter even most rooms without PA. IME most guitar players who use a 4x12 do so because their heros do. Then they can't get 'my sound' without cranking the bejesus out of the damn things, screwing up the works for all involved. Want to know the number one complaint of pro-touring sound men? 4x12s, because they can't balance them with the PA. I'm not talking bar bands, nor even mid-level acts, I'm talking about national and international acts in 10,000 plus seat venues. Using them for 100 seats? Ludicrous.
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Agreed. Another interesting thing is that a single 12" can sound just huge in the right cabinet as well. I have a friend who builds high end tube amps, and he has a model similar to a super reverb but with a single 12" in the super cab. It sounds terrific. You wouldn't think it was a single driver. I often wonder myself why guitarists feel the need to have so many drivers when they can crush me with 1.
 
#51
Calaverasgrande said:
Btw it is poor planning to count on foh or monitors. A band should be able to rock on backline alone.
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Whaaaaaa . . . ???

When we play large gigs with a PA provided we expect, at the very least, for it to be functioning properly. Why should we have to bring two tons of extra crap with us that we don't even intend to use just on the microscopic chance that their FOH will catastrophically fail?

Even so, for most of our small to mid size gigs our guitarist's 40 watt 1x12 combo and my own 450 watt and 1 x 15 cab are more than enough to carry the band should the PA fail.
 
#53
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billfitzmaurice said:
It's Freudian compensation for lack of size in another area. :p
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Very true, some of the venues we play constantly ask to have the guitar cabs turned down as they're over powering front of house, kinda wonder why you'd bother to even mic it up in that case? (never the bass though)
All i can do is set my volume to level that im happy with and is line with the drummer's tub-thwumping :hmm:
 

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