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Is this 2000W amp claim deliberately misleading?

Is this 2000W amp claim deliberately misleading?

  • Yes - they should be making it clear they're using a peak number in the ad

  • No - it's pretty obvious you should be checking the manual


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Now? How about always. They've been sued for intellectual property theft, patent and copyright infringement more that any other company in the industry. They even took on the name Bugera to avoid association with the Behringer name because of the bad rep Behringer acquired in spades since they knocked off an Aphex Aural Exciter, the first in a long line of copies.
Historically Uli was a young student building copies of fancy brand mixing desks, out of the same components iirc, nek minit...
 
Not only are they using this "2000" number in their ads, but it's right there on the back of both models,
the BV1001M & BV1001T with tube pre amp.
2000w @ 4 ohms / 1000w @ 8 ohms
Now that I would definitely say is misleading if the amps in question don't put that power out "continuous"
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I will say this. Don't know anything about their amps, never researched them. But when I was looking at amps back in August and saw the BV100T claiming 2000 watts for $499.99, I just kept on looking. I wound up going with GK, and eventually would like to get a Mesa Subway D-800+ as well.
 
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There is no law that says "W" means continuous or something like what people think is "RMS", or even peak. There is just no standard. It's not just the Music Tribe and is widely across the MI industry. Look at at Mackie's DLM8 at "2000W" - Mackie isn't lying it is "2000W"
The same is true for many manufacturer's. And a manufacturer that publishes a lower "W" value also may not be telling the full story.

And Gee - the Music Tribe does some reference and tributes to other manufacturer gear and everybody gets bent out of shape. Rock-n-roll is built on reference and tribute. ;)
 
really? can you give some examples of suppliers that won't stock their gear?
Interesting question. IME retailers will carry what consumer demand dictates. I like and respect the business ethics of the folks at Sweetwater, and they carry Behringer products.

I'm not a fan of Behringer's business model for a number of reasons (and do not buy their gear), but they've remained in business for years because their products sell well. While it may mean some tough personal decisions for retailers, consumer demand is usually a big driver for what they stock their shelves with.
 
Interesting question. IME retailers will carry what consumer demand dictates. I like and respect the business ethics of the folks at Sweetwater, and they carry Behringer products.

I'm not a fan of Behringer's business model for a number of reasons (and do not buy their gear), but they've remained in business for years because their products sell well. While it may mean some tough personal decisions for retailers, consumer demand is usually a big driver for what they stock their shelves with.
Yup, they are not only in business, but have a super-factory in China, because we the consumers voted them into office with our money. It seems the average MI customer (which may or may not include us, as in TB) is unable to resist an apparent zigawatt amp bargain. We can only blame ourselves for not walking the walk we talk. Nice guys finish last.
 
Not only are they using this "2000" number in their ads, but it's right there on the back of both models,
the BV1001M & BV1001T with tube pre amp.
2000w @ 4 ohms / 1000w @ 8 ohms
Now that I would definitely say is misleading if the amps in question don't put that power out "continuous"
Please be aware that you are on a good way to destroy serious science with posts like that