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It is so easy to ruin your life.
- Thread starter Dr. Cheese
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I know of no "basically decent" that would be able to do this. The woman is a monster. I could see how a "basically decent" person could get behind the wheel drunk and kill someone by mistake. This, while possibly not premeditated, was not easy and was definitely not any kind of mistake.
She was aight; she looked almost exactly like Esperanza Spalding, if you could believe that!
She was dishonest, though; I stopped talking to her after I found out she was younger than she put on
This woman committed theft. Then she beat to death a coworker. (Dr Cheese how do you "know she didn't plan on being a murderer" when the report says she beat the woman for 20 minutes with a blunt object after being found out) and THEN she tried to cover the whole thing up by posing as a rape victim.
Yes, there are dumb mistakes that can ruin people's lives. But this woman's theft wasn't one of them. Would she have lost her job? Sure. Maybe even gotten a slap on the wrist for stealing merchandise. But the response to kill another human being to cover up her theft is not something I can look at as a mistake or poor judgment and definitely not a "there but for the grace of god go I" type deal.
It's murder and I can't fathom having any sympathy for the situation she finds herself in.
Yes, there are dumb mistakes that can ruin people's lives. But this woman's theft wasn't one of them. Would she have lost her job? Sure. Maybe even gotten a slap on the wrist for stealing merchandise. But the response to kill another human being to cover up her theft is not something I can look at as a mistake or poor judgment and definitely not a "there but for the grace of god go I" type deal.
It's murder and I can't fathom having any sympathy for the situation she finds herself in.
She lost me as decent when I read in the report the dead woman had too many impacts to her body to count.
-Mike
-Mike
I looked at my original post and nowhere did I say that I felt sorry got the suspect, yet many keep saying that I do. I said a life was taken and that another was wasted due to bad decisions. Some of you are clearly bringing baggage to this thread that has nothing to do with what I wrote.
Double Agent said:
I said I don't know the woman. I do know every felon, even killers, is not a monster. Please don't try to turn that into some sort of sympathy.
She was aight; she looked almost exactly like Esperanza Spalding, if you could believe that!
She was dishonest, though; I stopped talking to her after I found out she was younger than she put on
You mean the Hello Kitty backpack didn't give it away?
Sorry, but every first or second degree murderer (not everyone convicted, but everyone who actually committed the crime) IS a monster.
I disagree. I think many people commit monstrous acts, and they deserve punishment for what they have done. That is different from saying that someone is evil at their core. I don't know this woman, so I cannot make that judgement. I do know that sometimes people make a bad situation worse by trying to cover up an initial bad act with an even worse act. That is what this situation looks like to me. Either way, she committed a terrible crime (allegedly) and will have to pay for it.
There is no "evil at the core"
There is only our life defined by our actions.
If you commit monstrous acts, you ARE a monster.
I don't know whether she committed said crime - thus I can't make the judgement.
If she DID commit the crime as described, I don't NEED to know her - her crime itself defines her as a monster.
Yes, and if that "worse act" involves murder - you've just joined the monster club.
You're a smart guy, and I respect you, but just disagree with how you see this. I believe all of us would be seen pretty badly if we judged solely by our worst moments. That said, most of us aren't murderers.
It was his daughter in law and the "relationship" was
ongoing for awhile. Plus he was making videos. That kind of thing tends to influence juries in the direction of less leniency.
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Mammogram is down but I'm working manually
I personally find her useless to society and see no reason to spend taxpayers' money keeping her housed, clothed and fed, assuming that she did indeed commit the violent crime as stated.
Not trying to start a debate, just my personal thought evoked from reading this story and many others like it.
Not trying to start a debate, just my personal thought evoked from reading this story and many others like it.
I'm gonna weigh in here. To consciously kill someone represents a MASSIVE disconnect with the values of 99.9999% of our society. That is a problem...you don't have to call them a monster, but they are clearly in a class of their own, and one, we as a collective people, clearly don't approve of.
When I think of my worst moments, I think about the time I passed out behind a Del Taco dumpster, not the time I murdered someone.
For the vast majority of adults it is an easy decision. For someone who has been drinking booze for many years it might seem justifiable.
I certainly don't excuse his behavior. He made the decision to drink so much that he became an alcoholic and it destroyed his ability to act rationally or to consider that his actions might harm others. Others may disagree with this opinion and might have sympathy for him with the opinion that no one chooses to become an alcoholic.
Still others will say that being addicted to alcohol has no bearing on his decision to have sex with a 14 year old.
I will say that it was a very disturbing phone call I got from him out of the blue, after he had been arrested but before his trial. I hadn't heard from him for years but he called me to see if I was still his friend. He was crying uncontrollably because he said he knew he had ruined his life and was going to be sent to prison. None of his former friends, or even his family, would speak to him. I had no idea what to say. I told him I'd see what happened at the trial and I'd get back to him - but I never did.
I was just about to come in here and edit my post as I don't think I was fair in posing the question the did... But, I see you responded before I could edit it. I'll leave it now... I apologize.
This will turn into a temporary insanity plea and she'll spend some time in a psychiatric ward, then be sent off once the state "fixes" her.
-Mike
-Mike
