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I've a NV412. Should I get an SVT810E?

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Get the Fender 810 neo Rod, if you want an 810. Much, much easier to shift than the Ampeg, looks great with the sb300 on top and can punch through just as well. Plus it has a horn if you want it and more bottom end if you want to eq it tbat way. But the biggest plus is that it is so much easier to move. Common sense says stick to the berg.
 
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First let me state that I am an 8 10 lover so this response will be subjective.
First, what head are you running? I run mine with an SVT Cl.
Now for the meat and potatos. I love this cabinet. (I have 3 BTW.) I have used these cabs with several amp heads. They ALL sound better with this cab than they do with any other cab i have used with them. I have used two versions of the Peavey mark 6 with them, a Yamaha 100 bass amp and my SVT. I have run those amps with 2 10's , 2 15's , a Peavey 1820 , a 4 10 and a 4 10 with an 18. The 8 10 blows them all away. Tighter and a more definable sound every time. As to the sore back statement , the 8 10 has wheels and a handle built in so no bending to move it on flat surfaces. Also no dead lifting to load it. Back it up to whatever vehicle it's going into and just rock it in. Steps are a bit of a pain but you are probably needing help with a 4 10 and a 2 15 too. That said, I can handle a few steps alone with no problems. You just have to learn how to lever them up. Going down is no problem , just don't let go. I lost mine once on a set of wooden steps and pretty much destroyed the bottom two steps. Cab survived just fine.
They hold resale value so if you don't like it , you can always sell it and probably not lose anything so I say go for it.
There are a couple versions of these things. Some are plywood cabs and some are made of stuff called OSB. I believe these were made from 2000 to 2006. The OSB's have been referred to as the "dark cabs" They used different speakers and are a bit heavier than the plywood cabs. There are some folks that don't care for the OSB's as much as the plywood ones. All three of mine are the OSB's and I have had no problems with any of them and they all sound fine to my ears.
Get it , try it and if you don't like it (perish the thought) sell it and tell everybody what a jerk I am.;)
 
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Yeah. Much of what sharkbait said.

I've had many cabs and the 810 has been the most forgiving to move because it is tall, has wheels, a kick plate, and a skid rail.

I sold my Berg 215 for my 810. The bottom line is that I'm in a band that just BEGS for that ampeg sound. I loved all my berg cabs and I love my Heritage 810. They each do what they do a little different.

If the cab is a good price, check it out. If you don't like it, sell it. IMO, it is win-win if you're able the shelf some cash.
 
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Oh. To answer your question.

The 810e will better give you that classic ampeg sound. Period. Nothing else (that I know of) will nail it 100%.

Bergs will get you in the neighborhood (I haven't play a NV412), but then they will get you out of the neighborhood too.
 
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anderbass said:
Why did you prefer your NV412 over the NV610 you used to own?
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I felt it was more LIKE the Ampeg 810 actually. :laugh: I felt the 610 was tighter not quite as 'vintage' sounding - which I think the 810 is- and the NV412 is too.
I've always really enjoyed using a SVT810 whenever I've had the chance.
Now one's available locally at a good price..... :whistle:
I do love the NV412, so I s'pose I also asking how much more the 810 will give me, how much more ofa hassle is it to cart about too?
I'm Sorta thinking it may be EASIER ina way, as the NV412 is actually a touch short to lean/ tilt into back of my ute/truck. I have to be really careful it doesn't miss the lip before I hoik it up ready to slide it in. :wideyed:
 
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I've played a few Ampeg 810s and owned a dark sounding SLM era one I didn't like. But the Heritage sounds great.

Personally I prefer my Bergantino NV610, the smaller size and weight makes a massive difference to me regarding portability, load in, and what kinds of vehicles I can use to transport it. My knuckles thank me as well, I always used to graze them on doorways with the 810.
 
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Rod, I understand where this is coming from after your experience with the heavier 115. I suppose if the fridge available to you is dirt cheap then it can't do any harm to grab it as you can always move it on, but I must admit I have been regretting never grabbing an NV412 when they were available. I bought my Fender neo 810 because it was too good an offer to miss so I suppose I am as "guilty" as you of doing the same thing. It is just that in practical terms, other than height, I cannot see you gaining much over the 412.
 
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Tim1 said:
Rod, I understand where this is coming from after your experience with the heavier 115. I suppose if the fridge available to you is dirt cheap then it can't do any harm to grab it as you can always move it on, but I must admit I have been regretting never grabbing an NV412 when they were available. I bought my Fender neo 810 because it was too good an offer to miss so I suppose I am as "guilty" as you of doing the same thing. It is just that in practical terms, other than height, I cannot see you gaining much over the 412.
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I got a refund for the 115 neo and was/am gonna get another hopefully lighter one to match my original one.
Then. ... This SVT810 came up at an Ok price.
So. .. Am thinking, I've always liked em, always wanted one. . (Only thing that's stopped me has been sheer size of it), so. ... It's now or never.

Tim1 you've used both Fender Neo 810 and the Ampeg 810. Can the Fender cop the warm middy vintage vibe of the Ampeg ?
 
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The Fender is more versatile at the two frequency extremes, as you might expect. Dial back the bass a tad, roll back the tweeter and you get the closest I have ever had to the my old Ampeg 810. Most people say a Berg NV610 nails the Ampeg fridge tone - well, when I first got my Fender neo 610 I still had my Berg 610 and in a side by side comparison the Fender could do exactly what the Berg did plus a while lot more. I sold the Berg on the basis of that.
Having swapped my Fender neo 610 for the Fender neo 810 I think that the neo 810 is more than just two extra speakers - it is tight, punchy and huge. No way will it ever get lost in the mix. That said, the same can be said of the Ampeg fridge. So, the Fender will get you close as dammit to the Ampeg sound with a little eqing, and it is way more versatile and I think handles high power better (that is very much an IMO, I have not cranked the two side by side). Huge plus for the Fender though is its lighter weight, although I think it is just a tad larger overall than the fridge. Really you cannot go wrong with either. But I do love my Fender with that SB300 sitting on top;)
 
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