Mark Wilson
Supporting Member
Why are you getting so defensive? I'm stating that's it's VERY possible that this is the same one Jaco used.
Holy. Open your mind a little man.
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Jaco's '63 Jazz Bass for sell???
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Why are you getting so defensive? I'm stating that's it's VERY possible that this is the same one Jaco used.
Holy. Open your mind a little man.
Mark Wilson
Supporting Member
Body looks legit. Neck could be anything, either way this shouldn't be up for sale. A piece like this belongs in a museum, not on some rich collectors wall (or potentially out being played!).
Where there's money to be had like this, there's enough incentive for counterfeit. I once saw a Bass of Doom clone. If it weren't well known that the original had been destroyed, you'd swear every scratch were authentic.
"1963 Fender Jazz, SN L14769
The opening shot of Jaco's DCI instructional video, Modern Electric Bass , shows Jaco slotting the nut on this bass. The original neck was being repaired at the time, so Jaco installed a '70s Fender Precision neck on the Jazz body. This bass wound up at Albert Molinaro's Guitars R Us shop in Los Angeles and was sold to a collector with the original and the P-Bass necks."
Taken from link above..
The opening shot of Jaco's DCI instructional video, Modern Electric Bass , shows Jaco slotting the nut on this bass. The original neck was being repaired at the time, so Jaco installed a '70s Fender Precision neck on the Jazz body. This bass wound up at Albert Molinaro's Guitars R Us shop in Los Angeles and was sold to a collector with the original and the P-Bass necks."
Taken from link above..
Mark Wilson
Supporting Member
Cause that's exactly what I asked.
Be optimistic man. Not everyone in this world is a criminal.
Jaco Had more then one bass. (I read the entire book of his bibliography) but I wouldnt even consider calling. this bass wouldnt be on internet. this is worth sooo much.
You fail. The "RESTORED" bass was the '62 fretless. This bass is the instructional video bass which was a '63. He got most of his basses second hand so your pick observations are ridiculous.
I totally agree with this 100%!
And I read the link and stand corrected on the issue of how many basses he owned. ^_^
That being the case now I am not so sure this is a fake but that pick groove on it just doesn't match up to it in the pic on the vid box....
Well I did fail in the fact that I didn't realize at the time I made my earlier comments that he had more then one bass. Now where YOU FAIL is Duhhh.... a second hand bass like that -- and you just said he got most of his basses second hand-- would have marks from previous ownership SOOooooooo if he didnt play with a pic how did the pick trench get on the body? Previous owner because he got it second hand...duhhhh... and if thats not a pic groove then show me what is...
The other thing to consider.. If it's being sold at a reputable vintage guitars dealer, what are the chances of it being counterfeit? I'm sure the shop has done their own research before even considering taking it in.
The wear marks are not going to match because he played it for a while afterward and used to throw his basses around.
Mark Wilson
Supporting Member
I just want to throw it out there guys.
This bass wasn't Jaco's main fretted bass.
Taken from the link I posted earlier...
"1960 Fender Jazz, SN 57308
Jaco's main fretted Jazz Bass, a two-tone sunburst, of average weight and "very resonant" according to Kaufman. This was Jaco's main bass on tour with Joni Mitchell; it can be seen and heard on her Shadows and Light album and DVD. Its whereabouts are unknown. "
This was just a bass he used for the DVD. For all we know he could have bought it the day before!
While this is one of Jaco's basses (which is incredible IMO) you guys are making a MUCH Bigger deal than it needs to be.
I do agree it should be put in a museum though.
It was sold to a collector, who now has decided to sell it. Big deal.
This bass wasn't Jaco's main fretted bass.
Taken from the link I posted earlier...
"1960 Fender Jazz, SN 57308
Jaco's main fretted Jazz Bass, a two-tone sunburst, of average weight and "very resonant" according to Kaufman. This was Jaco's main bass on tour with Joni Mitchell; it can be seen and heard on her Shadows and Light album and DVD. Its whereabouts are unknown. "
This was just a bass he used for the DVD. For all we know he could have bought it the day before!
While this is one of Jaco's basses (which is incredible IMO) you guys are making a MUCH Bigger deal than it needs to be.
I do agree it should be put in a museum though.
It was sold to a collector, who now has decided to sell it. Big deal.
Oh I totally agree with that but if you look close at the vid cover pic of the bass and that groove and then the recent pic of it and that groove they are two totally different shapes. I suppose its possible to morph like that over the years but funny, the other upper body scrapes look the same in both pics. I would look more but Ive already closed that window.
I'm just trying to set that guy straight before spreading misinformation when he is clearly mistaken. I know exactly which bass this is.
But when did it come up for sale? Just now?
Jaco had more than one bass, where did you hear that he only had one? I might not be a historian, but along with the basses in the link, I recall him owning these ones as well:
There has to be a few more.
Plus, while I was living in Boston, I remember hearing that Jeff Andrews was holding onto one if his old jazz basses around the same time Bass Player reported Greg Rzab buying completely different jazz bass.
Another thing, it is pretty known that he swapped necks on his jazzes quite frequently, for fretted P-bass necks (from that vid). So this could be one of his old basses, at least the body is.
- Guild pilot bass
- 5 string Ibanez
- a stacked knob Jazz
- '63 Jazz
- An Abe Rivera fretless 4
There has to be a few more.
Plus, while I was living in Boston, I remember hearing that Jeff Andrews was holding onto one if his old jazz basses around the same time Bass Player reported Greg Rzab buying completely different jazz bass.
Another thing, it is pretty known that he swapped necks on his jazzes quite frequently, for fretted P-bass necks (from that vid). So this could be one of his old basses, at least the body is.
