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jamerson without going flat.

#41
WOW! page 2 of this thread has just been a laugh riot to me. the fun of an opinion thread is watching people argue their opinion to the death. you strings thread lurkers are A OK in my book :D

to anyone acting like i have no idea what my hands feel when i play on flats ..trust me they do. metal is not ICE and there is more traction at first until they start to get crudded up and stanky. ive just put on some GHS Brite Flats on as a hold me over til my TI's ship and i gotta say i dig em.flat sound with a very very mild bit of texture that my fingers enjoy. i ate bacon and sauasge pizza while playing it for the first time just to get em a lil gnarly and its worked out great so far.

as for the lo rider fans i feel you guys . theyre thumpy but just not flats. i have a set on my jazz and love em.

im studying up on foam/cloth muting options right now as the next step to the sound and have just been using palm and finger muting methods for now and i have to say i couldnt be happier with the way this bass sounds.

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the finished result thus far

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"THE FOLD" 93 Precision Plus with HiBeams, MIM active Jazz with LoRiders and now my Squier P with almost flats :)

im a proud papa today, my family is beautiful
 
#42
Yeah! Precision Plus! those odd birds kinda rock. Let me know if you ever want to part ways with that...though i probably wouldn't.

Oh, you'll get used to playing flats in like 3 days and be flying around that thing. Since you have a dedicated bass for "that" sound, I say go all the way with it. My P has flats, and J's and MM have rounds. If it had to be just one, probably Lo Riders, but you don't need to compromise.
 
#43
TripleDouble said:
Yeah! Precision Plus! those odd birds kinda rock. Let me know if you ever want to part ways with that...though i probably wouldn't.

Oh, you'll get used to playing flats in like 3 days and be flying around that thing. Since you have a dedicated bass for "that" sound, I say go all the way with it. My P has flats, and J's and MM have rounds. If it had to be just one, probably Lo Riders, but you don't need to compromise.
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theres a double of my bass on ebay STUPID cheap right now..just saying. no affiliation.

im already starting to zip around on them. they are very suited to my playing style and i couldnt be more thrilled with em. maybe ive just played flats that felt like crap before
 
#46
Handyman said:
Dude, the proper term is polo. :hiding:
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Ok then...

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Mule Muffins!


Anyway, I found that when I first switched to flats my fingers would drag on the strings but that only lasted until the "roundwound" calluses on my fingers changed to a smoother "flatwound" callus. It's been smathoooth sailing since, even with new flats. I never use rounds anymore.
 
#47
mongo2 said:
Ok then...

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Mule Muffins!


Anyway, I found that when I first switched to flats my fingers would drag on the strings but that only lasted until the "roundwound" calluses on my fingers changed to a smoother "flatwound" callus. It's been smathoooth sailing since, even with new flats. I never use rounds anymore.
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and thats exactly what i think it is! thanks for manifesting my issue into proper words
 
#48
having a small issue and i dont wanna start another thread about it since its related to the strings.

my A string is buzzing on the second fret. wasnt there til i changed my strings. due the the fretboard curvature the saddle on it is already pretty high. it was set up before the flats were put on. is there a chance that the groove in the nut is cut too low on this for flats...its just ONE FRET holing me back and i dont want to have to raise the action any higher on that string or itll be wonky. any suggestions?
 
#49
Round wound callouses? Flat wound callouses? That sounds absurd. How about just plain callouses? How about some strings feel smoother than others? How about the strings get a little dirty and then feel smoother, as a result of the slight buildup? I play round and flats. I've noticed no difference in my callouses, at all; ever.
 
#50
your idol said:
having a small issue and i dont wanna start another thread about it since its related to the strings.

my A string is buzzing on the second fret. wasnt there til i changed my strings. due the the fretboard curvature the saddle on it is already pretty high. it was set up before the flats were put on. is there a chance that the groove in the nut is cut too low on this for flats...its just ONE FRET holing me back and i dont want to have to raise the action any higher on that string or itll be wonky. any suggestions?
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You could always test that theory by inserting a small bit of paper or business card underneath the string in the nut slot - but it's more likely that the different string tension has changed your neck relief. If the nut slot was cut too low, you would have already seen this issue.
 
#52
debassr said:
You could always test that theory by inserting a small bit of paper or business card underneath the string in the nut slot - but it's more likely that the different string tension has changed your neck relief. If the nut slot was cut too low, you would have already seen this issue.
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+1

I've had the exact same thing happen to me after changing strings; I just gave the neck a smidge more relief and it fixed the problem....of course then I had to play with my intonation a little.
 
#53
Craig_S said:
Round wound callouses? Flat wound callouses? That sounds absurd. How about just plain callouses? How about some strings feel smoother than others? How about the strings get a little dirty and then feel smoother, as a result of the slight buildup? I play round and flats. I've noticed no difference in my callouses, at all; ever.
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They're definitely different callouses, at least on my hands.

With rounds I get a very thick rough callous, with flats the callous is not as pronounced and very smooth, almost polished and my fingers never drag at all, even with brand new flats (no dirt buildup on new strings so they should drag, right?).

It makes sense since the flats have a less aggressive surface and the callous isn't always getting torn up and my fingers don't have as much of a "make more skin" response.

I never ever play rounds anymore but when I did switch back to rounds for a several months a few years ago my fingers got those heavy rough callouses again and they dragged when I used flats.
 
#55
debassr said:
You could always test that theory by inserting a small bit of paper or business card underneath the string in the nut slot - but it's more likely that the different string tension has changed your neck relief. If the nut slot was cut too low, you would have already seen this issue.
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paper bit worked perfectly. i mean it even visually looks like its cut kind of low. one thin piece of paper and everythng is all good. its a new bass so im going to bring it in and have it evaluated by the tech at the joint i bought it and if he feels like the groove is in fact too low just get the nut replaced. i will try a little neck relief in the meantime
 

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