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James Gang

I really liked the Rides again album because of the way the bass is recorded on it. I thought that was a really well engineered album, in addition to the great songwriting and playing.

That album was produced by Bill Szymczyk who did a lot of great work including the Eagles and that's how the whole Walsh/ Eagles thing came about.
 
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Not to hijack this thread, but I'm getting some nostalgia here... Buying records at JC Penney, Osco, etc. And driving around with my buddies cranking lottsa different music. We once got pulled over by a cop because there were these four long-haired kids driving around making very weird noises. We were all singing the wha-wha guitar parts to "White Room"...

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Not to hijack this thread, but I'm getting some nostalgia here... Buying records at JC Penney, Osco, etc. And driving around with my buddies cranking lottsa different music. We once got pulled over by a cop because there were these four long-haired kids driving around making very weird noises. We were all singing the wha-wha guitar parts to "White Room"...

jte

The James Gang on 8-track had me thinking the same thing, I remember 8-tracks clicking over in the middle of songs, but it didn't seem to matter at the time, just music and the road.;)
 
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I had a friend who had a HUGE blue 70's Cadillac (we called it the Blue Cadoo) with an 8-track player. On any given day, it would be Hendrix, Doors, Purple, etc.
But to get back to the James Gang, I have been checking out the various Youtube vids. Interesting bass Dale is playing... Looks like a tele bass with a Precision pickup. Also, the pickguard looks too big to me (I could be wrong about that). Glimpses of his rig look like Acoustic cabs (probably 2x15's). I suppose the heads are acoustic, too, but they don't look like the later Acoustic stuff. Any comments?
 
He's still playing. They did a reunion tour with Walsh just a few years ago, I thought I saw some footage on youtube awhile back. I might have forgotten to mention Dale Peters P-bass tone from that live album in the recent best P-bass tone in rock thread, great nasty tone.

Amen brother Jerry!


Dale Peters did excellent work for JG. He had some great lines.
The fadeout on Funk 49 has a signature Peters line.
And yeah, the Live CD is out of this world.

There is a picture of Joe and Dale in concert on the CD
that I have which I have never been able to find anywhere
on the internet. Dale is in front of his amp with a P.

Tom Kriss' work on the first James Gang album is not too bad
either. He does a great version of Jerry Ragavoy's tune 'Stop'
that I have always admired. Harvey Brooks covered that tune
on Kooper's Super Session, but TK takes it to another level
entirely.

Can't say enough about those two guys, they really influenced
me heavily when I was starting on the bass.

Lots of love for those guys here.
 
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Footnote: Unfortunately Glenn Schwartz has retired from playing guitar because "God told him it was the thing to do!"

Not to agrue with God, but Glenn is one of the finest guitar players on the face of the earth. I believe he is in his 60's now.

He still plays:
Glen Schwartz
Every Thu
Major Hoopples
1930 Columbus Rd. , Cleveland Ohio,
216-575-0483

I haven't seen him, but I've heard his set can be "eclectic"

UPDATE: maybe [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
 
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"...Rides again" IS great! a large part of the great sound was the venue: Carnagie Hall really DOES rock. I love how the bass rattled some kind of metal during the solo. THAT'S live! The wood on the stage and in the hall itself adds the woody, deep sound, and the size of the hall is perfect for that music.

This was before bands played in NHL/NBA/NFL barns as the rule. True, the equipment wasn't as powerful, but the musicians would have rather played two show in one night to sound their best.
 
"...Rides again" IS great! a large part of the great sound was the venue: Carnagie Hall really DOES rock. I love how the bass rattled some kind of metal during the solo. THAT'S live! The wood on the stage and in the hall itself adds the woody, deep sound, and the size of the hall is perfect for that music.

This was before bands played in NHL/NBA/NFL barns as the rule. True, the equipment wasn't as powerful, but the musicians would have rather played two show in one night to sound their best.


Actually they sounded pretty darn loud on the Rides Again album. I have to agree- it was the venue that gave that sound. Joe Walsh's solos sound huge as does the bass.
 
Carnegie Hall has the best sound of any venue I have ever heard a concert in. You can almost hear a pin drop on stage there.

I saw Mahavishnu Orchestar there, with small amps no less,
and very little PA support and their sound was excellent.

I did see James Gang on that same summer tour at the
Capitol Theater in Portchester NY and my ears are still
ringing today. Loud doesn't begin to describe it.
 
Wow- to see Mahavishnu back in the day- must have been killer. I saw Weather Report (with Jaco) at the Beacon Theatre (another great NYC venue) during the Heavy Weather tour.

I was actually thinking recently about which tune I like best off the live album. Tough choice, they are all great. Some pretty fine keyboard playing by Joe, too.
 
That reminds me, the first album release of Rides Again had
a great version of Bolero sandwiched between The Bomber and
Closet Queen. It was subsequently removed from later
pressings as Ravel's estate was apparently very aggressive
about the rights to or lack thereof to his music.

I see that the CD releases now include the original cut. Good
thing as that is a great segue in the piece.
 
This was before bands played in NHL/NBA/NFL barns as the rule. True, the equipment wasn't as powerful, but the musicians would have rather played two show in one night to sound their best.

I started going to "big" shows at places like the Fillmore East that held about 2500 people the sound was great and you could see the band from almost any place in the house. Then some of those same bands got huge and started playing places like Madison Square Garden where the bands were the size of ants and sound systms still weren't developed enough for places of that size. I had a epiphany about that same time that I could go downtown to a jazz club and see some of the best musicians in the world from about ten feet away.;)
 
Wow, LOTS of nostalgia here. I loved "Rides Again". Uriah Heep was mentioned too. My garage band did lots of tunes by both of those bands. Even hearing the words "record store" sends me reeling.

What were the first three songs on that album side? Funk #49, woman and ??? Was it the Bomber, or was there another song in between?

The whole Bolero lawsuit or whatever it was stirs up memories too. Thanks everyone.