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Jason Newstead's tone
- Thread starter MOTORHEADBANGER
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Just watched the memory video... he actually looks like he's slapping in parts too. Weird.
I wonder why he does that? Maybe he forgot his picks that day?
I don't think you need a Sansamp at all. Here's how I get it:
Spector NS2 (what he used for a lot of stuff) with a lowish action for some fret rattle, into an amp with a small bass boost, lower mids left alone, then mids and high mids pretty high, and a pinch of treble. Play with a pick. It should get you close.
Spector NS2 (what he used for a lot of stuff) with a lowish action for some fret rattle, into an amp with a small bass boost, lower mids left alone, then mids and high mids pretty high, and a pinch of treble. Play with a pick. It should get you close.
I think the idea about the Sansamp is more like...spend $200 on this to get close enough instead of spending $2K on the bass.
I think the idea about the Sansamp is more like...spend $200 on this to get close enough instead of spending $2K on the bass.
Sorry, meant to put NS2A....the Korean one. Still, yeh, the Sansamp will get you close (I own a Sansamp, but also own a Barber LTD overdrive....it's a low gain overdrive guitar pedal with a mid bump.....works awesome on bass. I find it nails Newsted's tone).
If you want his Justice tone, (ignoring the low mixing) drive your treble all the way up, play as fast and sloppy as you can to keep up with the guitars, and pretend you can replace Cliff.
If you want his good tone, as in, Metallica/Load/Re-Load, it's much more refined and is a bit darker. He didn't use a P, but mine gets close, tone rolled back 1/4 turn. I don't use a pick like him, but that probably helps too.
I can get away with a 4-string and Hipshot Extender, not sure where the 5 comes in.
If you want his good tone, as in, Metallica/Load/Re-Load, it's much more refined and is a bit darker. He didn't use a P, but mine gets close, tone rolled back 1/4 turn. I don't use a pick like him, but that probably helps too.
I can get away with a 4-string and Hipshot Extender, not sure where the 5 comes in.
If you want his Justice tone, (ignoring the low mixing) drive your treble all the way up, play as fast and sloppy as you can to keep up with the guitars, and pretend you can replace Cliff.
If you want his good tone, as in, Metallica/Load/Re-Load, it's much more refined and is a bit darker. He didn't use a P, but mine gets close, tone rolled back 1/4 turn. I don't use a pick like him, but that probably helps too.
I can get away with a 4-string and Hipshot Extender, not sure where the 5 comes in.
I prefer him to Cliff.......
Does he own it or did he borrow it from Scott Smith's family? Can't imagine how awkward that phone call must have been.
I think it's on Blackened more than others, that's the song I really got into.
He just has such a heavy handed technique when he tries to play so fast. So did Cliff, but he had the benefit of the cushion of fingers as opposed to the solid snap of a pick.
I will say though, it sounds much much better live, I believe. I blame studio mastering, I mean, as a contributing factor.
Ans as stated, on later labums, he soundsm uch more refined and melodic.
Do not take that as me singing his praises, I beleive only in Cliff, and Rob, who is Cliff reincarnate.
I'll shut it before I start something.
You're discussing two different Spectors. Jason's "recording" Spector was a black '81 P/J 4-string that was once owned by Phil Soussan and "made its way onto a bunch of Ozzy records". The Spector that Bob Rock used on "St. Anger" was a late '70s NS-1 "Brooklyn Spector"" that was indeed at one time Loverboy's Scott Smith.
That's what I've heard too. Didn't Bob Rock detune that 70s Spector to drop C without any adjustments in action and strings for St.Anger?
Sorry to bump such an old thread but I've tried the BDDI settings on here. I had a Aria Pro II SB Elite II and the BDDI for a while. They don't sound dead on because it's not the same stuff but it does sound very close. If I had the same basses as him then it'd sound even closer. Since then I've sold both the bass and pedal. I now have a spector and will probably be buying the VT instead of the BDDI. I'm having trouble cutting through the mix, it has a great "spector sound" but I just hear growl and bass, no note definition. Perfect for Black album tones, and anything that uses a spector but for "my" tone it might not be what I want. Not sure if it's my setting or if it's the bass.
rockstarbassist
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If you're getting lost in a mix w/ a Spector, it's definitely a you issue and not the bass!
What model do you have? Also since that's not much of a J.N. related issue you may wanna check the Spector thread. I don't know what you mean by "growl and bass and no note definition". Growl makes notes stand out...
What model do you have? Also since that's not much of a J.N. related issue you may wanna check the Spector thread. I don't know what you mean by "growl and bass and no note definition". Growl makes notes stand out...
I figured it's probably me, but what I was meaning is that I can hear the growl in the mix but I can't understand what I'm playing (steve harris is my example of that). I play lead style bass like steve and cliff but my tone just isn't working for me. I won't ever get rid of this bass but I want many other types as well. I tried increasing the amp gain by quite a bit and using only the P pup and I cut through much more. I use the J with it and I somehow seem to get covered up.
But as you said this should go in the spector thread. Oh and I have a 02 Euro4.
But as you said this should go in the spector thread. Oh and I have a 02 Euro4.
