I'm thinking spelling is going to really play a big part in some communication errors of this thread?
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jazz analisys discution.
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I think NOT, ... AABA typically refers to much larger chunks of the song structure, not 12 bars of it...
Be nice y’all, OP is from Venezuela. Cut him a break on English. He’s obviously translating from his Mother tongue.
yes.
i got you mike walker but that the typical explanation... but my point is that blues is an aaba form and also, jazz comes from blues. it has also its form: AABA
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You are wrong on forms - as stated above, forms like ABA refer to larger sections, like a 16 bar melody and then bridge.
Honestly, I think there are about a MILLION more important things you could be studying than obsessing over 'analyzing' a 12-bar song with some arbitrary label. Why don't you find a teacher that's an actual musician?
are you shure?
yes @mikewalker, there are too many things to study but im focused on music and everything that involves that i can study... its not only about 12 bars songs now i have to deal with bill evans and the "teacher".
yes @mikewalker, there are too many things to study but im focused on music and everything that involves that i can study... its not only about 12 bars songs now i have to deal with bill evans and the "teacher".
Not. First of all, most tunes this use the AB type convention have equal number of bars for each letter designated section (for example, So What is a 32 bar AABA tune) and you are forcing the form into your notion by mixing 4-bar and 2-bar sections. I guess that works in your bedroom, but not in the outside world.
It goes like this:
|I |IV |I |I |
|IV |IV |I |I |
|V |IV |I IV|I V |
I guess you could call it ABC, but you would be dismissed pretty quickly if you shared that with your fellow musicians.
if you are angry because i call him "teacher" i can give you his name for you to listen to it in soundcloud.
no, in fact i call it aaba but it is aba... its like the b part would be the change to IV chord.
and it has the same number of bars than the a part.
i agree with you that the normal use of "AABA" is for more accentuated changes but if you see it in macro blues has a A-B-A form... now i got you
and it has the same number of bars than the a part.
i agree with you that the normal use of "AABA" is for more accentuated changes but if you see it in macro blues has a A-B-A form... now i got you
This is what I don't understand:
You have a teacher, that you don't agree with, correct?
You're in some sort of program, college, university, or private instruction situation, correct?
If you're paying to be in the program and the program thinks you should be taught by this teacher and you disagree... then why don't you complain to his/her boss?
If you're paying for a bad teacher, why wouldn't you complain to their boss about their poor teaching? Unless, of course, it's not the teacher who's at fault...
no, you are right. that's the theme of all. i do not complain about anything that it not a repeated mistake, i mean one time its ok, 2 times its not. its like i write something in english bad (bad) but written 2 times bad its like an ERROR
Then why not change programs? If they're not helping you then they're wasting your time and you're wasting your money. Or teach yourself.
I'd like to see some more of your teacher's corrections. So far I'm mostly just hearing that you two disagree on what song form best describes a blues, wherein your teacher is correct that AABA doesn't fit.
This feels like too little material to conclude a change of teachers is in order. What else are you two disagreeing on?
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This feels like too little material to conclude a change of teachers is in order. What else are you two disagreeing on?
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yea, but you are going against the conventions that any reputable jazz program teaches. You should get off this idea of forcing a blues into ABA or any other pattern used to describe longer jazz standards that are not blues. Enuf said, I am checking out
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