Jazzcore.

[*ToNeS*]

We've been slaving away on this stuff for aaages now. Someone called it 'jazzcore' - sounded pretty cool to me. All commentary welcome, you can get stuck into my bass-playing and stuff

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Have fun!

 

[ashtray9]

Hmm, not sure where the jazz fits in there. Just sounds like hardcore to me.

 

[*ToNeS*]

Dunno about that 'hardcore' call, mate... nothing like the stuff!

 

[ashtray9]

Even less like jazz.

 

[Terry Funk]

We've been slaving away on this stuff for aaages now. Someone called it 'jazzcore' - sounded pretty cool to me. All commentary welcome, you can get stuck into my bass-playing and stuff

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Have fun!

I like! And I actually do hear the jazz influence. i can definitely hear a sax player playing that guitar part in "Have Another Scone". Good stuff.

 

[Zombbg4]

I hear the jazz in it, but the "core" elements ruin it for me.

 

[thombo]

along the lines of the dillinger escape plan, meets mr bungle, meets rollins band, with a fosters influence.

not hearing the jazz thing... a few arpeggiated chords, but that's doesn't constitute jazz. do you guys improve any of it, it sounds composed. no swing beat, no ii-V's...

i'm not knocking it, just not feeling the "jazz" part of the "core," and you are setting up for disappointment if you call it one thing, and they hear another.

want some chocolate cake?
sure, thanks! (bite....) hey, this is cannoli cream cake, there's no chocolate in here! (bite...) it's really good though!

 

[Buskman]

I'm hearing a LOT of John Zorn/Naked City in there, plus the Mr. Bungle & Dillinger Escape Plan (go Jersey!) references from before. Pretty cool!

Regarding it's not 'this' or 'that', or 'it's more this than that'... who cares? Let's not have another silly debate like the whole 'Death Metal' mess on here from a ways back.

From what I can tell, he's not asking what you'd categorize it as, but rather what you think of it.

 

[thombo]

I'm hearing a LOT of John Zorn/Naked City in there, plus the Mr. Bungle & Dillinger Escape Plan (go Jersey!) references from before. Pretty cool!

Regarding it's not 'this' or 'that', or 'it's more this than that'... who cares? Let's not have another silly debate like the whole 'Death Metal' mess on here from a ways back.

From what I can tell, he's not asking what you'd categorize it as, but rather what you think of it.

i hear ya... i wouldn't have commented had the title of the thread not been "jazzcore."

 

[derrenleepoole]

Man, there's Mike Patton and John Zorn all over that music... Dillinger meets Naked City meets Hemophilliac meets Mr Bungle for sure...

Mix wise though, the drums are way too dominant and the bass could be mixed higher. It's all vocals, guitar and cymbals and the bass gets a little lost in the mix. There's enough room in the music to bring certains elements up and certain elements down IMHO. However, I do understand that myspaz and heavy compression won't help none Good stuff though.

 

[*ToNeS*]

Hey guys, thanks for digging in and having a listen. You lot certainly tend to get hung up on semantics, though! Wow. I was only relating what I'd heard from local press, not sure if I agree with it myself. 'Jazzcore'? Sounds like the 'nu-metal' of tech-metal to me. That's not too good.

I'm stoked people actually enjoy it. It takes a lot of work to get stuff like this moving, and there are lots of numbers involved, and my head hurts a lot of the time

The more comments the better, good and bad. I want to hear it all.

P.S. No-one in the band is really a huge Patton or Naked City fan. Go figure!

 

[IconBasser]

uh....

hm...

my first reaction was "what the hell, this sounds like gibberish"

then I thought "hmm, maybe"

really I think the only reason I don't really dig it is that I've never enjoyed hardcore vocals. If ya tried some grunts it may come out better.

props to you guys for trying to create original music though.

 

[Kenbuntu]

I like this. This. is . good stuff. Different.

Give it some time bro, in a couple years itll be the next best thing.

 

[JimiLL]

*** was that??

 

[excane]

I'm hearing a LOT of John Zorn/Naked City in there, plus the Mr. Bungle & Dillinger Escape Plan (go Jersey!) references from before.

+2 on Naked City....

Those are exactly the influences I was going to write.

 

[excane]

Maybe a little Candiria thrown in there as well....

 

[Audiophage]

I dig some pieces of it, but you need more flow from part to part. Also, introduce your drummer to some music beyond Metallica, and do something about that snare sound.

 

[jazzcrime]

sounds like tech metal/metalcore with a saxaphone to me. i wouldn't say it sounds anymore influenced by jazz than any pop song these days. there are some cool grooves but i think maybe sometimes the musicality is sacrificed at the expense of just wanted to sound different, or complex, but i guess that's more a person IMO gripe about tech metal/metalcore/core whatever.

 

[*ToNeS*]

I dig some pieces of it, but you need more flow from part to part. Also, introduce your drummer to some music beyond Metallica, and do something about that snare sound.

I can dig the flow bit - it's pretty jagged, not for everyone - but that Metallica comment is way off. Our boy teaches jazz for a living, and is probably one of the most accomplished timekeepers in Melbourne (Melbourne being Australia's music capital). If you can't hear the absolute insanity that he manages in that song, you're deaf.

 

[ashtray9]

Excellent