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Jeff Berlin banned from TB?

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As I recall , he had a problems with these TB rules:


"Rule #1: Respect your fellow members. All registered users must address fellow members with the utmost respect at all times. If you do not agree with a fellow member, be courteous in your response. Thomas Jefferson said it best: "When I hear another express an opinion which is not mine, I say to myself, he has a right to his opinion, as I to mine"."


"Rule #5: Questioning a Moderation Decision Publicly If you have a disagreement with a moderator (If your thread gets deleted, if you get a warning, etc.), DO NOT post your complaint publicly on the forums. If you would like to raise a complaint regarding a moderator's actions, start a private conversation or email the moderator. If the moderator's response is unsatisfactory, please contact the forum admin staff by clicking the "contact us" link in any page's footer. "




Which is a drag, because he was very informative.............
 
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5StringBlues said:
As I recall , he had a problems with these TB rules:


"Rule #1: Respect your fellow members. All registered users must address fellow members with the utmost respect at all times. If you do not agree with a fellow member, be courteous in your response. Thomas Jefferson said it best: "When I hear another express an opinion which is not mine, I say to myself, he has a right to his opinion, as I to mine"."


"Rule #5: Questioning a Moderation Decision Publicly If you have a disagreement with a moderator (If your thread gets deleted, if you get a warning, etc.), DO NOT post your complaint publicly on the forums. If you would like to raise a complaint regarding a moderator's actions, start a private conversation or email the moderator. If the moderator's response is unsatisfactory, please contact the forum admin staff by clicking the "contact us" link in any page's footer. "
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That is it, in a nutshell.
 
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BassGreaser said:
I have found today (coming back to TB after four years away) that the rules have changed a lot.. Had my thread deleted.
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Your thread would have been deleted then, too. The rules have changed very little in the past four years.
 
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Wow, not sure how i feel about this. I admit I don't know what happened between Berlin and his fellow TB'ers, but I gotta ask....how can allowances not be made? The guy, although not my bass hero, is solidly in the pantheon of bass legends. Anyhow, not knowing the facts I probably shouldn't throw in my 2 cents, but there you go.
 
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MGR said:
Wow, not sure how i feel about this. I admit I don't know what happened between Berlin and his fellow TB'ers, but I gotta ask....how can allowances not be made? The guy, although not my bass hero, is solidly in the pantheon of bass legends. Anyhow, not knowing the facts I probably shouldn't throw in my 2 cents, but there you go.
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Allowances were made, again, and again, and again. He simply didn't care to follow the rules. They weren't new, surprising rules he didn't know about- he broke the same rules repeatedly even after repeat warnings.

And frankly, he didn't deserve the exceptions he got. Being a famous bassist doesn't mean the rules don't apply to you- if anything, that fame should hold you to a higher standard. We have a bunch of pros on TB with equal or greater credentials that have never broken a rule once. We also have countless thousands of users ranging from 13yo on up who never break a rule once. If a 13yo can handle it, so should a grown man. All of us here could benefit greatly from his wealth of knowledge- it just may be that an internet forum with rules that don't fit the way that he feels he wants to communicate may not be the place for him.
 
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Bryan R. Tyler said:
Allowances were made, again, and again, and again. He simply didn't care to follow the rules. They weren't new, surprising rules he didn't know about- he broke the same rules repeatedly even after repeat warnings.

And frankly, he didn't deserve the exceptions he got. Being a famous bassist doesn't mean the rules don't apply to you- if anything, that fame should hold you to a higher standard. We have a bunch of pros on TB with equal or greater credentials that have never broken a rule once. We also have countless thousands of users ranging from 13yo on up who never break a rule once. If a 13yo can handle it, so should a grown man. All of us here could benefit greatly from his wealth of knowledge- it just may be that an internet forum with rules that don't fit the way that he feels he wants to communicate may not be the place for him.
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Explained this way, I totally agree. As I said, I am a new TB'er and as such was not privy to whatever happened, but yes, if it was a matter where the guy just didn't know how to act, then banning him was a good thing. In fact, it's a good lesson to those same 13 year olds you speak of, that in today's day and age, even being a famous bassist doesn't make you immune to the rules.
 
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