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Jeff Berlin banned from TB?
- Thread starter Joshua Pickenpaugh
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Well, it wasn't really anger. Perhaps I was a bit annoyed?
At the moment I thought that if he had the Yes gig, he should be playing the song as is.
And not coloring the songs with his approach. Maybe he wasn't the guy for the job?
I'm still a little confused as to why that video would upset you.
Confessing that he isn't really a pick player, it looked like he took an example of a popular bass line that was originally played with pick and re-worked it for fingerstyle as a demo for the legion of bass players who also don't use a pick. I thought his take on it was pretty faithful to the original and a useful lesson to fingerstyle players. I didn't see any arrogance or other socially deviant behavior.
What am I missing that should have me (or anyone) annoyed about that video?
Nothing arrogant at all, it just didn't sound good because he phrased it like a jazz fusion player. Tony levin would have sounded more stylistically appropriate. But that's why IMHO you shouldn't hire levin for a bebop session, or berlin for a Yes tour.
I think if you are in a gig that is basically Yes without Chris Squire, you basically should sound like him.
No complaints about the technical approach from the pedagogic point of view. He is a great teacher with awesome technique.
But I don't think you have room to change the bass sound in a Yes gig. And I'm not a Yes fan.
Berlin got the call. Like most bass players, Berlin has an approach, and Yes members hired him knowing that.
Berlin's not a pick player, and he worked the song out best he could fingerstyle. No, it's not a perfect duplication of Chris Squire's picked bass line, but it's still pretty damn faithful IMO.
And now guys like you and me, who won't ever get the call from Yes or any band of that stature, are second guessing (dare I say nit-picking?) the guy who did get the call.
I'm not trying to defend Jeff Berlin, but I am on this thread like a lot of readers to hear legitimate complaints about the guy. That rant that got him perma-banned speaks for itself. But in the case of that video, I still don't get it.
Berlin's not a pick player, and he worked the song out best he could fingerstyle. No, it's not a perfect duplication of Chris Squire's picked bass line, but it's still pretty damn faithful IMO.
And now guys like you and me, who won't ever get the call from Yes or any band of that stature, are second guessing (dare I say nit-picking?) the guy who did get the call.
I'm not trying to defend Jeff Berlin, but I am on this thread like a lot of readers to hear legitimate complaints about the guy. That rant that got him perma-banned speaks for itself. But in the case of that video, I still don't get it.
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Tony Levin got the call first, and couldn't do some dates so they called Jeff to fill in.
I could give a rat's hindquarters about the degree of faithfulness between Berlin's version and Squire's original. It sounds great the way Berlin plays it. I wouldn't be surprised that was what the guys in Yes thought as well.
Thanks, I was just in the process of editing my post.
The point being, Berlin got the call, Levin or no.
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Rule #1 obviously doesn't get enforced too often........
A very testy dentist IMHO. I asked him for a recommendation on a waterpik and he started ranting. I guess he's not big on waterpiks.
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