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Jobs that don't allow you to support yourself

I've been a paramedic for a long time, and our pay level is pathetic. I can't work on the ambulance anymore because I can't afford to. When I quit working the street I was recieiving every skills bonus that the company would recognize and therefore was one of the higher paid medics at my service...at $12.54 an hour. That's about 26K a year if all you work is full time. I have a wife and kids and a house amd two cars to support. We can just about get by on triple that.

Full time on what I made on the ambulance would just about make my house payment if I didn't have to eat, drive, or buy anything else at all.

Lots of EMS services will say that we are not supposed to have any outside jobs, but it's rare to meet a medic who only has one job. I only have one job now because I work at a childrens hoospital anddo a buttload of overtime.

I miss working the street, but I just couldn't afford it. People who don't work EMS usually think I'm kidding whwen I say a lot of medics leave EMS to work fast food for the big money. I'm not.

Yeah, Ambulance driver pay is so low it just astonishes me. Especially all the time it takes to actually get an EMT cert. Never understood how they got away with paying their employees that.
 
I know, maybe I missed something too......


:hmm:......

I used to be able to support myself and live off of $6.50/hr.....

When my son was born & my wife took off work, I supported me, her, & my son on $12/hr....

It can be done..... I make little more than what you're speaking now hourly & do very well......

If I ever got caught catching outside work woth competition I'd be run off for sure.....

Learn some money management........ It works.

:D

It's not just a question of money management, cost of living is a very large factor. Texas is among the least expensive states to live in, $14 an hour will get you much more there than in some areas, like Metro NY.
 
I'm a business owner... and can see both sides. But, for me, IF the person can do work on the side and it is: 1. not direct competition, and 2. does not effect his/her work for me I could really care less.

Also, if there are no issues with trade secrets or intellectual properties than it could work out.

The business owners are just looking out for themselves, which they have every right to do.
 
I just figured it out....I get (based on the traditional 40 hour week), just over 30 bucks an hour to play bass and lead a band.
 
$14 and $18 an hour measly?

Am I missing something?

A single person working 20-30 hrs per week at $18.00 an hour in Honolulu, HI would have a very difficult time making ends meet by himself or herself. The cost of living is not the same everywhere.

My nephew earns about $18.00 per hour (including tips). The cost of living in North Dakota, where he lives is only about half of what it is where I live in Hawaii.
 
What is your feeling on companies that pay a measly wage AND don't allow their employees to take any outside work? Do they deserve to have their employees take side jobs? Should they be allowed to tell employees they can't make money outside of their company? Do employees who are making enough money working NOT need to work outside the company?

What's your opinion?

My opinion is:

As long as all the stipulations were up front there's not much to discus. You said yes and took the job. If it couldn't be negotiated you should simply deal with it until you find a better job/situation.
 
Or one could look for a job with decent pay, good benefits and/or allows you to work on other endeavors.

Yeah, but mostly that means 'find a different profession'.

I got into EMS to save lives. But saving lives is apparently not a valuable skill set. I have had bosses tell me "Lot's of people do your job for free. Why should we pay you big money?" Big money is apparently defined as more than poverty level.

So all those volunteer fire departments out there are screwing me over, it seems.

I would say we can't all be CPA's, but maybe I should have. Then I'd make good money, at least. But I don't think my karmic balance would be as healthy as it is.
 
Yeah, but mostly that means 'find a different profession'.

I got into EMS to save lives. But saving lives is apparently not a valuable skill set. I have had bosses tell me "Lot's of people do your job for free. Why should we pay you big money?" Big money is apparently defined as more than poverty level.

So all those volunteer fire departments out there are screwing me over, it seems.

I would say we can't all be CPA's, but maybe I should have. Then I'd make good money, at least. But I don't think my karmic balance would be as healthy as it is.

Bard, I don't know how close to you are to Austin, but have you looked at Austin-Travis County EMS? I was scouring for future EMS careers and they seem to offer a pretty good package.

As far as volunteering, I've never heard of volunteer medics; only EMTs. I think the biggest problem in career EMS right now is the lack of representation. EMS is frequently marginalized and swept under the rug, often by police and fire departments. Firefighters have the IAFF, which is incredibly powerful politically. I don't think there is any EMS union that even comes close to the size and strength of that organization.
 
I think that people should be allowed to choose which employer they work for, rather than being forced to work for someone who pays them less than what they think they're worth. At the very least, people should be able to start their own businesses and take the risk to work directly for the public if they can't find any employer with which they can be satisfied.


Oh, wait......... :hmm:
 

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