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John Deacon's PBass tone?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by quadrogong, Mar 6, 2008.


  1. quadrogong

    quadrogong

    Jul 6, 2006
    NYC
    Anyone know anything about John Deacon's gear? was that a pre cbs PBass? his main bass?
    i read in wikepidia that it was a '67..


    how would one go about recreating that tone without spending a mint?

    RI Fender? 70's Fender?
    the '67 was a transitional year,they say..
    was there a particular pu placement or anything different about these?

    I'm looking into a Valenti custom,Sadowsky Hybrid(I like a 1.5 nut or close to it)
    gonna check out Fender Japan's stuff,figure I can always upgrade the pu's,bridge..

    Did he use flats on most of those classic Queen recordings?
    I just listented to "The Game"..that TONE!
     
  2. I read about it in bass player magazine, but I can't remember the year of his P bass. I read somewhere that he liked musicman basses a little later.

    "Killer Queen," seems to me is P-bass with flats all the way. Perfection.

    "Another One Bites the Dust" is a tone that's a little more difficult to nail. I think there is a keyboard playing in unison after the first few bars that really fattens it up. I'm willing to be that he used a Stingray on that song..
     
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  3. Bites the Dust IS a Stingray! AFAIK it IS a P. bass w/ flats on everything pre & including Night at the Opera
     
  4. quadrogong

    quadrogong

    Jul 6, 2006
    NYC
    go to "real player" and enter queen in the search, play "The Game"..that tone is unreal..sonic perfection,that is his classic tone,to me..so elegant and classic..
    I'm obsessed with it,

    he rules. what a great band.
    flats..huh?
     
  5. marcray

    marcray

    Nov 28, 2006
    Englishman in Oyster Bay, NY
    Aging Former Bass Player
    I actually had the 7 inch single of "Bites The Dust" and I believe he was holding a Kramer... Acoustic amp or maybe a Sunn... definitely a Sunn cab... doesn't mean he used that on the record but to see him without a Fender design in his hand is just weird... :)
     
  6. pbass2

    pbass2

    Jan 25, 2007
    Los Angeles
    My impression is that his P tone was a perfect example of someone who just had the tone in their hands, but also was a product of the era, running through whatever killer classic mic pre/compressor/limiter/DI they had going on. There's some serious tube/transformer mojo going on in that tone. Maybe there was an amp involved too, I dunno.
    His P w/flats tone was to die for.
    I think you just need a good solid P, find the right flats for you, and then start experimenting with different pres and DIs.
    I'm FINALLY starting to get to where I can get something like that tone now that I have a REDDI, and I've tried all kinds of things over the years.
     
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  8. marcray

    marcray

    Nov 28, 2006
    Englishman in Oyster Bay, NY
    Aging Former Bass Player
    this makes sense...



    I'm thinking that he's playing the higher octave on a different track and it is being used very lightly in the mix to fatten it up...
     
  9. There's also a guitar in there, but underneath it (sonically) is a hammond organ or something.
     
  10. Live Killers had a few pics of the man playing Stingrays as well as a P- IIRC... I'm certain about the MM though. I was pretty unaware of basses at the time(80 or so, been playing for a couple of years)& that round pickguard made me look twice.
    Plus a bazillion on JD's tone. In those days I thought his stuff was pretty simplistic, but I wasn't trying to play it then. :D
     
  11. JD-- Master of the 'feel' of bass IMO. understated playing...fewer notes but the ones that ARE there are Beautiful! Onya Deeks!!
     
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  12. marcray

    marcray

    Nov 28, 2006
    Englishman in Oyster Bay, NY
    Aging Former Bass Player
    maybe a Fender Rhodes Bass Keyboard? the Hammond has no subtlety, you just can't play it with the feel needed, the Rhodes you can though...
     
  13. quadrogong

    quadrogong

    Jul 6, 2006
    NYC
    Freddy..yeah,everything he's ever sang is amazing,I even dig his solo stuff..u can utoob those guys for hours..their entire Wembly show is on YT
    I'm after a tone like that now,or something similar..
    ..definitely all in the fingers,whoever said that..
    I'm thinking of trying a glaub too,they have some 1.5'ers too..
     
  14. maxbass

    maxbass

    May 22, 2002
    Milano Italy
    The pickup placement has been the same since 1957.

    I think an Alder/Rosewood Precision should be the first choice, but I'm sure you could easily nail it even with an Ash/Maple. If your hands allows you, of course!

    In the end I think that any P-bass would do the job, once it has an AlNiCo split coil (I'd stay away from Ceramic pickup or even AlNiCo's with scooped mids), and flatwounds would greatly help
     
  15. Like in the video to "The Game"?



    Maybe he didn´t use a Fender on the record? :confused:
     
  16. Yeah!
     
  17. The Kramer in that video has a P pickup!
     
  18. Exactly.

    That´s why I was wondering if he really used a Fender - listening to "The Game", the sound is in the P ballpark but doesn´t scream "Fender!" to me. It sounds a bit too smooth and polished to me, but I´ve been wrong before. :D
     
  19. i just got all my queen cds out and am looking at the pictures... in queen there is a collage and in one of the pictures he is holdins a P it seems... in the album sheer heart attack there's a live picture and again a p bass, butterscotch i think.... in a night at the opera there's yet another live picture, can't tell if it's a jazz or a precision but it's different color than the previous pictures, this is sunbrurst...in a day at the races he is holding the same p bass as in sheer heart attack i think, in fact it says in the sleeve notes he is playing a "FENDER BASS"... no pics on news of the world... in the album jazz tehre's a pic of a big studio either montreaux or nice (were tha album was recorded according to the info) there are a few basses on stands, i think i recognize three p basses and a musicman stingray i'd say... live magic a black p bass.. no pics on the works... no pics on the miracle... no pics on hot space.. i don't have the other albums.
     
  20. bovinehost

    bovinehost Supporting Member

    Dec 5, 2002
    Endorsing Artist: Ernie Ball Music Man/Sterling By Music Man
    stingray.
     

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