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Jon Stewart vs Jim Cramer

I've seen government distortions from the ground floor for years. Government was at the vanguard of lowering standards in the name of "affordable housing". Government, from Federal to state to local, all had various programs in place that turned what used to be a safe place to lend money into a moral hazard.

From regulations to ridiculously cheap money to grants to real and implicit guarantees, the government was a prime driver of the bubble we've witnessed.

Take government out of the picture, and this beast we see before us would be a much different creature indeed.
 
The IDB editorial strikes me as talking points, YMMV.

The Post and AEI had stronger reporting. There is no doubt that the GSE's accounting practices were scandalous. Their lobbying was over the top. The contention that they bought subprime MBS in a misguided attempt to curry favor from Congress in the aftermath of the accounting scandal is interesting - not sure it is the whole story but it is plausible enough to be a good chunk of the story. In matters of business, I think good old greed is always a part of equation. Therefore, there is always the possibility that the GSE's thought these MBS might turn out to be good investments.

It is important to keep in mind that during this time, the SE's were doing other things that further the affordable housing mission - most notably they were large buyers of Low Income Housing Tax Credits. IMHO, a much better way of encouraging affordable housing than buying subprime MBS (at least as long as you have tax liability;).


Maybe we have different standards for what constitutes encouragement of bad underwriting. The Post article suggests that had Fannie and Freddie actually bought whole loans it would have enforced better underwriting. "But because Fannie and Freddie were buying mortgage-backed securities rather than the actual subprime loans, their involvement came too late to require stiffer standards from lenders." They bought the highest-rated pieces; that doesn't rise to the level of encouragement to me. The folks who bought the less-than-AAA slices were providing way more encouragement. Again, YMMV.

Contrary to what AEI suggests - the sides were not that far apart - a deal could have been made between President Bush and Congress that would have reined in the GSE's in 2005. That was a huge missed opportunity that everyone involved, if they were honest about it, would admit to.
 
+1 dangnewt.

The government may have been a prime driver in the housing bubble, but there were other primer drivers. No one forced lenders to make risky loans except the perception that they'd otherwise be losing market share in what appeared to be a lucrative area of business.
 
If they weren't the largest, they were #2. FNE and FRE at one time were buying up nearly half of the paper out there.

They were buying the securities, right? Not the loans? Am I reading you correctly?

I'll do it for him:
{snip}They became the largest buyers of subprime and Alt-A mortgages between 2004 and 2007, with total GSE exposure eventually exceeding $1 trillion.{snip}

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212948811465427.html

This is an opinion piece. The facts presented as they are here are in dispute.

(I have to be honest, it's hard to find accurate 'facts' in a link that doesn't have some type of opinion piece or blog surrounding it. )

The GSE's market share of mortgages dropped below 50% sometime in 2006-07. At one point they were over 75%. They could not, to my knowledge, buy the balloon, no money down mortgages by their chartered rules. They were getting clobbered in the marketplace.

It's my understanding that they did funnel cash into the problem at the encouragement of their Fed regulators. But they didn;t buy the Toxic stuff directly, they couldn't. They did seem to buy the securities of some toxic stuff issued by others, to satisfy their 'affordable mandates'.

That last part is new to me, by the way...

And I'm sorry for bailing on this over the weekend, I was completely out of pocket...
 
What do you mean?
Fannie Mae was founded by FDR's policies and became a government-owned corporation in '68 and Freddie Mac became one in 1970.

Freddie and Fannie were very late to the 'less than prime' mortgage buying game.

The 'subprimes' were basically the non-conforming mortgages. Non-conforming means they don't fit Freddie - Fannie standards.

The FF's developed some of their own programs to compete with these 'subprime' toxic products, but these by definition were 'conforming'.
 
No one forced lenders to make risky loans except the perception that they'd otherwise be losing market share in what appeared to be a lucrative area of business.
Well.. No one "forced" them to make bad loans, but the system of mortgage securitization incentivized the HELL out of the practice.

Here's an interesting opinion piece to put things in perspective (hope it works):

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