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Joyo Ultimate Drive on bass

Of course you're getting a much lower quality with the Joyo. That's no surprise. But if you ever have a chance, look inside both. The OCD has a bit more going on inside of it too. Either that, or my memory isn't serving me correctly right now and it just looked that way. I was surprised to see how little was on the UD board. I know it's just a $30 OD but still. I'll try and post pics tomorrow. I'm swamped today.
 
From hearing the samples here, the OCD seems to have more clarity than the UD. I've been playing my UD a bit recently and it's great for really heavy grind, not so good for the subtle and softer side of tone. The UD / OCD is defiantly a heavy grind OD, almost bordering on a dynamic fuzz.

IMO, that's what the OCD always beats out the UD on, clarity. The UD is more like tube break up to me. The OCD is as well but it's a lot clearer.

That's the essential trade off between these two pedals, the low end that's coming through (or cut) and how it affects the headroom. The OCD has a bit more low cut, which translates to a "tighter low end" or "more clarity". The UD has less low cut, which translates to "wooly/fuzzy/more saturated" and they react differently between the gain and tone at different settings. That's why I still have both and still like both for different reasons. As far as quality goes, in my experience it relates more to reliability and longevity than tone. I've done blind tests on hand built pedals with the exact same circuit and different components (vintage NOS "mojo" type parts, high end new parts and off the shelf Radio Shack parts) and could hear no discernible difference in tone in a real world setting. Those were all handpicked for specific tolerances/values though, to be as fair a comparison as possible. It's certainly true that it can be a bit of a crapshoot with low end pedals, because of those looser tolerances, one pedal could sound a little different than another. That's true of a lot of pedals though, especially the vintage ones people hype a lot.
 
I like the UD a lot, it really benefits from a little post dirt EQ to bring out the best from it. It's best sound is in the really heavy overdrive and I find a few of my passive basses don't give it enough juice to really make it shine. But that's fixed easily with my MXR bass preamp. I'm not really into heavy OD's...so for me it has limited use and value. So I'm happy to have a UD and I wouldn't want to pay a lot for an OCD for the extra clarity. It's a sound that's no really me or the music I tend to play, although i like it a lot. I might fit a blend control to my UD which will tame it a bit at higher gain levels.
 
That's the essential trade off between these two pedals, the low end that's coming through (or cut) and how it affects the headroom. The OCD has a bit more low cut, which translates to a "tighter low end" or "more clarity". The UD has less low cut, which translates to "wooly/fuzzy/more saturated" and they react differently between the gain and tone at different settings. That's why I still have both and still like both for different reasons. As far as quality goes, in my experience it relates more to reliability and longevity than tone. I've done blind tests on hand built pedals with the exact same circuit and different components (vintage NOS "mojo" type parts, high end new parts and off the shelf Radio Shack parts) and could hear no discernible difference in tone in a real world setting. Those were all handpicked for specific tolerances/values though, to be as fair a comparison as possible. It's certainly true that it can be a bit of a crapshoot with low end pedals, because of those looser tolerances, one pedal could sound a little different than another. That's true of a lot of pedals though, especially the vintage ones people hype a lot.

Some components like resistors can be fine tuned with a file to increase resistance. Other components like caps and op amps are what you get and you have to buy a lot to pick out the specific in tolerance values.
 
That's the essential trade off between these two pedals, the low end that's coming through (or cut) and how it affects the headroom. The OCD has a bit more low cut, which translates to a "tighter low end" or "more clarity". The UD has less low cut, which translates to "wooly/fuzzy/more saturated" and they react differently between the gain and tone at different settings. That's why I still have both and still like both for different reasons. As far as quality goes, in my experience it relates more to reliability and longevity than tone. I've done blind tests on hand built pedals with the exact same circuit and different components (vintage NOS "mojo" type parts, high end new parts and off the shelf Radio Shack parts) and could hear no discernible difference in tone in a real world setting. Those were all handpicked for specific tolerances/values though, to be as fair a comparison as possible. It's certainly true that it can be a bit of a crapshoot with low end pedals, because of those looser tolerances, one pedal could sound a little different than another. That's true of a lot of pedals though, especially the vintage ones people hype a lot.

This is a really good comparison/explanation of the two for whomever is looking at direct comparisons of them. I too kept my UD for the simple fact that I can use it differently/for heavier dirt sounds that the OCD. The OCD doesnt get anywhere near as dirty maxed out as the UD does. Its like you said Corey, it almost gets into fuzz if not heav dist. The OCD's tone knob, I find, is more usable throughout its entire sweep. The UD sort of is, again to me, but if you were to go fully CCW or CW with it, its very extreme, while the tone roll off/on fully either way is quite usable for me.
 
After listening to the OCD demo on youtube by basstheworld...I ordered a UD. Should arrive Tuesday. Unfortunately I'll be traveling for business until Thurs. I gave my guitar player permission to open it in my absence and try it out. If I don't care for it, maybe he will. A $30 experiment.

that's same demo is the one that had me sold on the OCD, but I gotta say the real thing is better than the Joyo clone, its a little more natural and touch responsive at lower gain, but my UD has more gain on tap than the V3 OCD....

though they are very close, my OCD has become my go to Overdrive sound which I use for light grit, but for $30 you can't go wrong
 
First impression: not for me. The dirt was pretty heavy. Not sure I'm crazy about the "flavor" of it. Also, it did seem to lose low end. A/B with the Agro on my board right now... no comparison. The Agro has a more appealing dirt flavor (to me) and virtually no loss of low end with my current settings. Gonna see if my guitar player likes it. Might try it again myself just to make sure.
 
I dig both really, but I much prefer my v3 OCD... Either way, the only pedal I got for cheaper(used $20) that IMO is much better is the Hardwire valve distortion, for $30 new, the UD is the man...

edit: I also relegated my OCD to light grit/clanky duties where I think it sounds the most natural or amp-like
 
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