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just paid $3.85 a gallon

westland said:
I spent the summer in Los Angeles area ... talk about a sunbelt travesty. Everyone wants to own their own plot of land out of sight of the neighbors -- so the city can't maintain enough population density to make mass transit worthwhile. Then they want to travel around in a giant Peterbilt SUV, because it's trendy; and will drive even when they could walk or bicycle. And all shopping is confined to huge MegaMalls and outlet centers miles away from any civilized dwellings, with airconditioning and huge parking lots... etc. etc.

Excellent post, excellent points. Thank you for giving me some insight to how things are on the other side of the world. I don't expect anyone to feel sorry for me. I just am unable to understand how people can survive paying $6 or more for one gallon of gas. Maybe they just make way more money than I do. I make a good wage, but if I had to pay $6 for a gallon of gas, I'd be in trouble.

-Mike
 
-Smaller cars, no pickuptrucks and SUV's, although terraincars are sadly getting very popular.

-Less distance (generally) to travel. If you drive 100miles here you're in the next country :D In the Us you're at school.

-Due to smaller distances a good public transportation network.

-People who do large distances (truckers, salespeople) get their gas paid back by the employer.
 
MJ5150 said:
What kind of hourly wages do you make??? For someone in the USA who makes $20 an hour, $3 a gallon here in the USA is spendy.
The minimum wage here is still 50 000 HuF IIRC. That is $250 per month.
My Mother has a relatively well-earning job, she gets roughly $13,75 net per hour. However, 45-50% of that goes to taxes, social security and other stuff. My Dad gets the diploma-minimum wage, about $5 net per hour. The gros is 35-40% less.
And meanwhile we pay ~$6,8 for gas. :rolleyes:
 
MJ5150 said:
I don't want to be too nosy, but how are you European folks able to afford gas that is $6 and more a gallon? What kind of hourly wages do you make??? For someone in the USA who makes $20 an hour, $3 a gallon here in the USA is spendy.

-Mike


Smaller cars and a different perception of distance.
 
MJ5150 said:
I don't want to be too nosy, but how are you European folks able to afford gas that is $6 and more a gallon? What kind of hourly wages do you make??? For someone in the USA who makes $20 an hour, $3 a gallon here in the USA is spendy.

-Mike

we don't really earn any more than you, but we can (just about) afford it by using vehicles with engines that are on average, nowhere near as big as yer US vehicles... I knew American cars were generally bigger but I was staggered by the size of your average car when I visited a couple of years ago...

as a huge and sweeping generalisation (which I apologise for in advance) I'd also bet Europeans are a little more willing to walk or cycle short distances than their American cousins

also, if we do have to drive, the journeys are probably shorter on average, given that we're not quite as spread out as you guys

I know we don't do politics, but the US demand for very cheap gasoline is going to have more and more of an impact on global power & politics as this finite resource gets more and more scarce... interesting days ahead
 
I was on my way home from work last night and I saw the BP
was $2.89.9 so I was going to pull in, but the jerk off in the lane next to me would not let me over, so I figured I would check the other BP closer to my house. I saw the sign for $2.77.9 for regular and I pulled in and filled up. That was lucky
for me. That is the lowest price I have seen in the Tampa Bay area since before the storm. :)
 
Petebass said:
I filled up a few days ago at $1.34 per litre. That's $5.72 per galon in Aussie $. Apply todays exchange rate and that's about US$3.89 per gallon.

Scotland's winning by a mile!

Oh no they are not!

Right now the price in Iceland for a (us) gallon of gas is $7.07

I said in an earlier thread that the price for gas was $8.5 something, it turned out that in my conversion I used imperial gallon instead of US gallon. Didn't know that there were two types. :) Imperiall gallon is 4.55 liters but US gallon is 3.79 liters.

The price has gone just a wee bit down, but not much :(

MJ5150 said:
I don't want to be too nosy, but how are you European folks able to afford gas that is $6 and more a gallon? What kind of hourly wages do you make??? For someone in the USA who makes $20 an hour, $3 a gallon here in the USA is spendy.

-Mike

They wages here in Iceland are pretty similar to the US, maybe a bit less though. But as has been said here, the distances are generally smaller in Europe. I drive 11km(7.8 miles) to work every day and doing that I drive through my town, through two more and into yet another one. :)
Granted these four towns/cities are pretty much stuck together.

But we can do this because cars in Europe are generally much smaller, though there is a US pickup craze going on here in Iceland, don´t know why.

But I was in Las Vegas in june and I was absolutely amazed by the sheer size of the vehicles there. No wonder you have such gas guzzlers, damn!

I drive a Skoda Octavia now and it is spending about 9.4 liters per 100km which is about 24mpg. My previous car did a bit better though.
 
Mike Money said:
EDIT:

I thought we exaggerated a a couple deaths into a massacre and declared independence because we were sick of this tax crap? :-p

The motto was no taxation without representation. We now have representation. The problem is, we don't always get who we want to represent us.
 
Ívar Þórólfsson said:
Say what?

What kind of funky converter are you using?

According to Invalid Link Removed the rates are:
95p = $1.71484
£1.05 = $1.89535

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

95p per litre is equivalent to $6.84 per US gallon
£1.05 per litre is equivalent to $7.23 per US gallon
 
Vorago said:
Not to mention China and India!

I travel in both China and India frequently, and I'm afraid the news is not good. China's big cities like Beijing and Shanghai (huge and more crowded than any cities I've seen anywhere) seem to want to be more like the US ... spread out not up. And the Chinese love their versions of Jeeps and Buicks (actually not bad cars, but really big). And roads and petrol are subsidized ... so unfortunately they seem to be heading in the US direction.

India has a different problem ... they haven't really updated their automotive designs since the 1950s. Combine that with low-quality petrol and you have unbelievable pollution ... I come back with a sore throat every time.

Europe, Hong Kong, Singapore (with 300% auto sales tax), and Japan I think have it right. Try to price out petrol and autos at full cost. In addition, most of these countries have tax incentives to retire cars that are more than 10 years old (Hong Kong's cars are usually rust heaps after 5 years, so this is not a problem)
 
It sure isn't cheap out there. The crazy thing is that our stuff comes from Indonesia and maybe a little bit fom Alaska. The stupid caps are almost putting one Chevron on the north shore out of business. That would make everybody up there have to drive about 20 mintues to get to a gas station - now that guy could just make up a number ($5.00?) and everybody would have to pay it. Luckily you can't drive too far in either direction on our little island :)
 
Driving Tips for saving fuel:-

* Don't accelerate hard. Keep the Revs down.
* If you must warm up your car, don't leave it idling for too long. You're just burning fuel. 1 Minute should be enough to get things out of the freezing cold zone, then drive gently until the car reaches optimum temp.
* You burn a lot of fuel to getting moving again after stopping. Where possible, and only if it's safe to do so, try to keep the car rolling as you get going again.

The of course, there are the "leave the car at home" options which I won't go into because quite simply, it all depends where you live as to how you get around that.

I'm very lucky. This time last year I was living 50km (31 miles) from work. Add gigs and all my other running around and I was having to fill the car every 3 days. First I bought a smaller car, then I moved closer to work - and now a tank of fuel lasts almost 2 weeks.