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just paid $3.85 a gallon

I suppose, but in all honesty if I came across that much money I certainly wouldn't be keeping it to myself. Nor would I "negotiate" that large of a sum either. Unlike some people, I can be satisfied with say, ohhh maybe 6 or 7 million. :rolleyes: I don't have an insatiable appetite of greed.
 
Mike Money said:
Its above $3.00 here even at the cheap stations.

All in all, I'm only out about $5 extra bucks per tank.... i think. i dunno.

Where my parents live, it would take me 2 or more hours to get anywhere by bus... so i pretty much have to have my truck.

If it gets above $3.50, I will probably take my dad up on his offer to get me a bike... And I'll take him into a nice trek road bike.

question is, why a truck and not a small car, or a stationwagon?
 
If he already owns the truck outright, it often isn't worth the cost to buy another auto with better gas mileage. The monthly payments will be a lot more than what you'll save. Sort of how you probably won't make back the price difference of a hybrid, if you buy one, from fuel savings.

Maybe that's not his situation, I don't know.
 
ok here is my take on the gas problem. we have become far too dependant on it. foreign or domestic. i see it as we have 3 choices. we can nuke the crap out of the middle east and seize all of the oil or we can start drilling in alaska. i could care less about the "environmental hazards", if any this would cause. if we have oil, lets use it. the caribou will get over it. there are several alternative fuels available. go to www.greasecar.com. this would be option #2. option #3 is an option that i have used pretty frequently as i drive a buick park avenue with a supercharger which requires me to use super unleaded gas. when gas gets so expensive it costs me over 60.00 to fill my tank..........i walk to work, to the gym, to friends houses. the news keeps telling us we are an overweight nation, well here is our chance to fix it. walk, bike use public transportation. we have a bunch of options in front of us, lets begin to use them and for gods sake, LETS QUIT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE OIL PRICES. we are enabling the gas executives to charge this much BECAUSE WE KEEP BUYING THE PRODUCT. STOP BUYING IT.
 
davetakis said:
ok here is my take on the gas problem. we have become far too dependant on it. foreign or domestic. i see it as we have 3 choices. we can nuke the crap out of the middle east and seize all of the oil or we can start drilling in alaska. i could care less about the "environmental hazards", if any this would cause. if we have oil, lets use it. the caribou will get over it. there are several alternative fuels available. go to www.greasecar.com. this would be option #2. option #3 is an option that i have used pretty frequently as i drive a buick park avenue with a supercharger which requires me to use super unleaded gas. when gas gets so expensive it costs me over 60.00 to fill my tank..........i walk to work, to the gym, to friends houses. the news keeps telling us we are an overweight nation, well here is our chance to fix it. walk, bike use public transportation. we have a bunch of options in front of us, lets begin to use them and for gods sake, LETS QUIT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE OIL PRICES. we are enabling the gas executives to charge this much BECAUSE WE KEEP BUYING THE PRODUCT. STOP BUYING IT.


I agree.

RE: #1: When the pipeline was first proposed for Alaska, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Now, it has only NOT harmed the wildlife, but they have incorporated it into their lives. Bears walk on it to get away from mosquitos, and the number of animals around it have increased rather than decreased. Not to mention that natives can get employment there which may decrease the amount of sustenance hunting. Not to mention that the vast majority of Alaskans are in favor of drilling; but here is the rest of the country telling them what they can/can't do in their own state.

#2. Sounds good, but two things concern me. First, used cooking oil is a great fuel... for now, because not many people use it. Now think of 50% of the people in a city using it; they won't be able to make enough deep fried doughnuts and french fries fast enough to power them. Plus, by running that fuel on public roads, you COULD be prosecuted for fuel tax evasion since you didn't pay it on the bio-grease.

#3. Looking around my office, a LOT of people could stand to walk more, even if it is 25 miles to work. :p Planning out your trips and doing more efficient driving is not a bad thing.

We have a store here that gives you fuel perks; for every $50 you spend at the grocery store, you get 10 cents off per gallon. That adds up pretty fast, especially since you can buy gift cards for other retailers there (sporting goods, hair salons, hardware stores, etc.) and they also count towards the perks. I usually get 40-50 cents per gallon off, and get the maximum 30 gallons each time via gas containers I bring along. I fill up out of the cans between fill ups, so each gas stop gets me about three tanks of gas.
 
davetakis said:
ok here is my take on the gas problem. we have become far too dependant on it. foreign or domestic. i see it as we have 3 choices. we can nuke the crap out of the middle east and seize all of the oil or we can start drilling in alaska. i could care less about the "environmental hazards", if any this would cause. if we have oil, lets use it. the caribou will get over it. there are several alternative fuels available. go to www.greasecar.com. this would be option #2. option #3 is an option that i have used pretty frequently as i drive a buick park avenue with a supercharger which requires me to use super unleaded gas. when gas gets so expensive it costs me over 60.00 to fill my tank..........i walk to work, to the gym, to friends houses. the news keeps telling us we are an overweight nation, well here is our chance to fix it. walk, bike use public transportation. we have a bunch of options in front of us, lets begin to use them and for gods sake, LETS QUIT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE OIL PRICES. we are enabling the gas executives to charge this much BECAUSE WE KEEP BUYING THE PRODUCT. STOP BUYING IT.

+1
The buyers should control the market, not the sellers.

AuG
 
Diggler said:
I agree.


#2. Sounds good, but two things concern me. First, used cooking oil is a great fuel... for now, because not many people use it. Now think of 50% of the people in a city using it; they won't be able to make enough deep fried doughnuts and french fries fast enough to power them. Plus, by running that fuel on public roads, you COULD be prosecuted for fuel tax evasion since you didn't pay it on the bio-grease.

#3. Looking around my office, a LOT of people could stand to walk more, even if it is 25 miles to work. :p Planning out your trips and doing more efficient driving is not a bad thing.

i'm glad you agree. since most cooking oil is vegetable based, and really we have a never ending supply of vegetables, especially carrots......... i know there are limits to the walking thing. i am fortunate to live 3miles round trip from work so it's not that big of a deal for me, although i have really bad knees but walking more would do everyone a bit of good. i used to drive to the gym to walk on the treadmills. how f'ing stupid is that. i walk around my block now. much better for the heart rate and burns more fat. i put on 20lbs this winter and i'm slowly taking it back off. when gas goes above 3.00 per gallon. i will start walking to work again.
 
Diggler said:
We have a store here that gives you fuel perks; for every $50 you spend at the grocery store, you get 10 cents off per gallon.
We have something similar here. The problem is that the same multinational that owns the grocery stores also own the gas stations. They're not losing out at all.

Why don't governments support use of alternative fuels? At the moment anyone who invents a non-petroleom based vehicle ends up selling the idea to the oil companies. They have to to survive and they recieve no incentives aid to get the products in to the marketplace. The oil companies then shelve the product to prolong our reliance on petroleum. It's just WRONG!
 
2.85 here today.

News says expect 3.50 this summer.

My driving habits will change. Saturday errands will be loop
based. Stops at WalMart or Home Depot will be when I am
going by anyway. No special trips with only one stop.

Saturday, a walk with the wife, not a car ride.

I would take a bus in a heartbeat if I could get anywhere near
a stop that would work.

The hidden costs or less apparent costs will add up too. Most goods in the US
move by truck. Right now we are paying a 17% fuel surcharge on LTL freight rates,
34% on full truckload rates. In the food business, the margins are so thin that
having fuel that expensive will raise the costs of foodstuffs directly by
5-10%. We will be passing these increased costs directly on to our customers in the form price increases on top of the normal price fluctuations of commodity foodstuffs. Not only are YOU paying more at the pump, but the companies that deliver your food, fuel, clothing and durable goods are paying more as well.
 
I'd convert to LPG if:

1. My car wasn't falling apart anyway
2. It wasn't 2000 pounds(ish) to convert (and my car is worth about 500), and
3. Our assh*le chancellor won't just increase the tax on LPG once it gets popular anyway.

Ya know, I'm sure that if the big oil companies really put their minds to it they could create a cleaner, more plentiful power source for cars. Maybe I'm missing something, but if oil is running out then it makes sense for THEM to find an alternative.
 
Bad Brains said:
The higer gas prices get the more I'm amused.

It's funny watching us Americans whine about dirt cheap gas prices when they are paying 7-8 dollars a gallon everywhere else in the world.

Then we wonder why everyone hates us.
Truer words were never spoken by a college student who hasn't had to pay for real life yet.

On the positive side, I'm happy you've OK'd the TB community's predictable reaction the next time you start a thread.:)

...and in other news....higher prices mean that oil companies will be retapping old wells that were too expensive to fully drill in the past....providing me an extra measure of job security. Sure, it's a hit to the pocket book and difficult to budget, but I like my job, too.

Mike
 
I'm doing the whole live in small town/spread out city compared to living in a larger more centralized city. I realize, it's not quite on the same level as moving to another continent but i think it's a valid thing.

Back home-i drove to school, to work, to the store, everywhere. I was about 3 miles from school, 5 miles from work, and betwen 3 & 8 miles from the different stores.

Here? I'm living in downtown Chicago. School isn't quite a block, work is about 3-4 blocks, stores are all around me.

My car [left at home] is an 84 Chevy Impala that has a 305 5 liter V8. The car is terribly inefficient & gets terrible mileage.

When i move home this summer-i plan on riding my bike more. I really don't like the idea of spending $50+ a week on gasoline.

that's all