Keeping amp from sliding around

[basscooker]

So, does Fender own the Genz Benz Shuttle saddle now, or was it even patented? Just a fantastic thingie those were.

Get all the big boys together in a room and standardize those as an aftermarket offering already!

 

[seamonkey]

Many mobile stacking storage systems have interlocking sockets/feet that have spawned a secondary market of people printing these to attach to other brand cases. Here's an example of Milwaukee cleats and feet pairings.
https://www.amazon.com/StealthMounts-Storage-Anywhere-Compatible-Milwaukee/dp/B09C2QPY2Y/
https://www.amazon.com/StealthMounts-Mounting-Milwaukee-Packout-System/dp/B08FCS48VC

 

[Wild_Bill_57]

So I’m looking at a slightly different idea. Glueing a thin metal plate to top of cabinet, below the tolex. Then replacing the amp feet with rubber coated neo magnets. Maybe ?

 

[seamonkey]

If you want to go magnets, then these are a good choice. A forstner bit can countersink the cup into the amp top. The plate washer attached to the feet. Or the other way around. Neo's are fragile, these kinds of cups reinforce them.

https://www.rockler.com/rare-earth-magnets-magnets

 

[mini-milli]

Trace Elliot has this nice little divot in the cabs that fit one of their heads perfectly:

 

[Wild_Bill_57]

What started this whole train of thought is I’m having a cabinet built so I thought what would be nice to have that is not normally on a small lightweight bass cabinets. 2 things came to mind. First to have the amp stay in place, even if tilting the cabinet. The second was to have an easy way to elevate cabinet so I can hear it better if needed. The second one was easy, add a pole pocket and a mini (Short) tripod speaker stand. They fold up smaller than a regular amp stand. Just spit balling ideas.

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

So I’ve been noticing all kinds of ways people are keeping the amps from sliding around on top of their cabinets. Velcro, straps, Hinges, non slip mat, foam. You name it, I’ve seen it on here.

What I haven’t seen is the idea of putting some neo magnets under the Tolex, or other cabinet covering. The adding magnets to the bottom of the amp.

This is how a bunch of companies used to do caster plates for large PA speakers and it worked great.

So anyway what do y’all think of doing the same for amps and cabinets. This would keep you from accidentally pulling an amp off a cabinet and allow for tilting cabinet back without amp sliding.

If done correctly, you would not even know they were there unless they were in use holding things in place. Just seeing what people think of the idea.

Fender does that. Ampeg has recessed cups that the amp feet sit in. Except for my micro vr, on my 212av, I've never had a problem with any amp moving around though. Any amp, any cabinet. And after I replaced the plastic feet on the micro, with rubber ones, I didn't have a problem with that one either.

 

[DJ Bebop]

So I’ve been noticing all kinds of ways people are keeping the amps from sliding around on top of their cabinets. Velcro, straps, Hinges, non slip mat, foam. You name it, I’ve seen it on here.

What I haven’t seen is the idea of putting some neo magnets under the Tolex, or other cabinet covering. The adding magnets to the bottom of the amp.

This is how a bunch of companies used to do caster plates for large PA speakers and it worked great.

So anyway what do y’all think of doing the same for amps and cabinets. This would keep you from accidentally pulling an amp off a cabinet and allow for tilting cabinet back without amp sliding.

If done correctly, you would not even know they were there unless they were in use holding things in place. Just seeing what people think of the idea.

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[beans-on-toast]

Who said that the amp has to sit on the cabinet? Not doing so resolves a long standing problem.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Who said that the amp has to sit on the cabinet? Not doing so resolves a long standing problem.

 

[Wild_Bill_57]

Who said that the amp has to sit on the cabinet? Not doing so resolves a long standing problem.

True, but top of the cabinet is usually where the amp ends up.

 

[beans-on-toast]

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I use something similar to strap down my B-15 when moving it. Those old larches are not the best. Although, normally I remove the head to keep it safe if there’s a chance that it could bounce around. I install a spare lid on the cabinet for transport.

 

[beans-on-toast]

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Hotel luggage rack.

 

[Wild_Bill_57]

Another simple answer would be

but this is not what I’m trying to accomplish

 

[DJ Bebop]

Hotel luggage rack.

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I use to use a TV tray then I graduated to the luggage rack. I use to set my head up downstage with me with my cabinets upstage so I could dial in the sound.

 

[beans-on-toast]

True, but top of the cabinet is usually where the amp ends up.

The opposite of what you are proposing is Mag-Lev technology where a platform can magnetically levitate.

 

[Lammchop93]

I just buy heavier amps.

 

[Wild_Bill_57]

I just buy heavier amps.

I’m looking at a 3lb Mesa D350 on a 20lb cabinet. So pretty lite weight stuff.

I have a rack on top of a 410 cabinet that is stable as can be.

 

[agedhorse]

So, does Fender own the Genz Benz Shuttle saddle now, or was it even patented? Just a fantastic thingie those were.

Get all the big boys together in a room and standardize those as an aftermarket offering already!

No, the concept that we developed remained with Jeff, he still uses it with the Genzler amps.

It’s not patented, I’m sure that at some point another manufacturer will do something similar and claim that they invented it first and theirs is the original. Of corse you guys will know the real story, direct from the horse’s mouth.

It is fairly expensive metalwork with some tooling and finishing cost. Maybe that’s why nobody else (that I am aware of) does this?

 

[AaronBass4]

Who said that the amp has to sit on the cabinet? Not doing so resolves a long standing problem.

How about the side? Cargo straps work great. . . when I'm also the sound guy, I put my head on the side and use a cargo strap to hold the 2 cabs, rolling platform, and the head held to the side. When I'm not the sound guy, I stack'em vertically and put the head on top and strap it all together . . . makes it easy to set up the stack then roll it to the back line.