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Kill Bill Vol. 2

#42
to understand what these movies are all about, you have to be familliar with the hong kong chop-sockie movies of the 70's. they all had a certain feel, a certain style to them, that qt really nails.

i like the beginning quote from vol 1 - "revenge is a dish best served cold" - attributed to an old klingon proverb. seems nobody can get a direct answer on who exactly first said that quote. it seems to get co-opted by a new culture/society and made their own - it's been attributed to the chinese, sicilians, a french philosopher, and obscure tribe of afghans, much like the movie genre that kill bill is emulating. the early chop-sockie movies were all similar, extrapolations of vengeance westerns, which were in turn extrapolations of hamlet, which in turn was an extrapolation and interpretation of certain greek tragedies like the story of oedipus. the inclusion of the anime in the first one is a nod to how this sub-genre seems to be carrying on the tradition.
 
#43
I just got done watching part one, I went out and bought it to watch it for the first time. I'm not one for big action (violent) movies to start with, so I honestly didn't care a lot for it. All the stupid fighting scenes cut out could have made this a heck of a lot shorter, and less difficult to stay with. I'll go see 2 in hopes it will make me a satisfied viewer, as I am a fan of Q.T.'s work.


It says this is his 4th movie, wasn't he also behind Jackie Brown?
 
#45
I liked Kill Bill v2 a lot, but in some ways I preferred v1. The first one was more violent, but I think liked it more stylistically (even the anime seemed to fit to me). Maybe I just don't go for westerns as much. This one did have more dialogue, but I'm not sure it was all better...I thought the scene where she visits the old pimp (father figure to Bill) was kind of silly. I really liked the whole section on the Crazy 88's and the fighting in the first.

I did think that Michael Madsen's (sp?) character in v2 was great, and much more dimensional than the others.

Marshall
 
#46
Believe it or not Quentinn Tarantino has done five, the first one being a movie called "My Best Friend's Birthday" in 1986.

Again, the movie should be considered one movie and not two for many things could've been lost to make it all one film.

"You sold a priceless Hanzo Hattori sword?"

"Well, not down here in El Paso pawnshop got for $250 dollars it."

:D
 
#47
The Urbs said:
Again, the movie should be considered one movie and not two for many things could've been lost to make it all one film.

"You sold a priceless Hanzo Hattori sword?"

"Well, not down here in El Paso pawnshop got for $250 dollars it."

:D
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Well in terms of storyline, yes, it's one film and bounces around in typical QT style. Stylistically, the two parts are different.

Marshall
 
#48
i hate to rain on everyone's parade but I think the real credit for Kill Bill 1 should be to the innovators of action film making in Japan and China from back in the days. QT admits that his movie is a chop-shop of old Asian films but I'm sure their names won't be mentioned in awards and not many checks will go to the people who he got the ideas from (except for Production IG who did the animation). I draw a similarity with Puff Daddy stealing David Bowe or Sting's beat.. and people thinking he is a genius for it. It's also ironic that most people who have seen KB1 have never seen the Shadow Warriors, and to those who have it was an interesting inside joke! Don't get me wrong, I personally loved the movie, but I have to stop from saying that it was a great QT film. Pulp Fiction, Reservior Dogs, and KB2 were more like great QT films in my opinion. He just had a huge budget and a collection of movies he could compile from. And his compliation was a nice job, it could of have been a whole lot worse... I also sympathize with all the pressure he was under to make a bitchin film after Pulp Fiction.
 
#53
I just saw both part I and II tonight, and my verdict is:

Part I: 9 out of 10. Outstanding everything, the only reason it gets a nine is a few personal preferences. No mistakes.

Part II: 2 out of 10. Why make a movie all about the chop-sockie flicks with only one fight scene? And it not being as good as ANY fight in the first one? :spit:
 

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