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Klos: comparable to Modulus?

Grapevine921

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Anyone with experience playing Klos AND Modulus basses?

How is the build quality of the Klos? Neck stability over time? I've been tempted by carbon fiber for a long time now and it's getting harder and harder to find Modulus basses for sale. I always wanted to buy a Status replacement neck and missed my chance on that. I guess my question is does Klos offer a comparable or even superior product or are they just the only game left in town?
 
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How is the build quality of the Klos? Neck stability over time?

The problem is, NOBODY KNOWS

…yet. Klos hasn’t been around long enough for any useful data — or even anecdotes — to have been gathered.

Whereas most of the issues you hear about Modulus necks refer to basses that are 20+ years old. Klos has been an extant company for what, 5 years?

We won’t know the answer to your question for at least a decade.
 
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I only ever held a Klos briefly in my hands, but I do own a Modulus FU5; first impressions were that the Modulus seems to be a step up in almost every way, from the build quality and general solidity and "heft" to the sound and playability, but a Modulus is also a bit heavier. Only time will tell, I also own another 90s brand with graphite neck, but that one suffers from a forward bow nowadays (no trus rod in that one, sadly).
 
Apples and oranges. Modulus is a high end boutique brand in a very different price range.
exactly.
Klos looks like a good company making nice things, though. Klos offers a lot more stuff. I spoke to a mandolin player who uses one they made, and speaks very highly of it.
I think they're quite different even in the things they do the same - such as a bass guitar. the klos is probably a cool buy at it's price range, as is a modulus.
 
I owned a modulus VJ and a Zon Sonus back in the day. Right now I own 2 Klos Apollos. I bought the 1st one about 3 years ago. It's the older style small 2+2 headstock that is currently spec'ed on their "standard" model. The 2nd one is their "custom" model purchased about 6 months ago with the newer 3+1 headstock . Both are superb basses. Although a long-term road test will require a few more years, I can happily say the quality of the necks and overall builds is excellent and on par with the Zon and Modulus I used to own. These necks are also lighter, making the basses lighter overall, with excellent balance. Both necks are super stable, which is particularly sweet up here where humidity varies VERY widely with the seasons. My wooden necks all require seasonal truss rod tweaks in early winter and late spring, but not these.-IMHO there is no quality difference between the 2 necks. The tuners on the "custom" neck are a bit smoother. When they initially came out, a big part of the marketing was that the necks can be easily & rapidly removed because there are perfectly machined/engineered tapped inserts in the body, making it a great bass to travel with. This is all true. The neck pops off in a minute with a provided mini Philips screwdriver and there's no need to readjust anything when it's reattached. . That was the prime reason I bought the 1st one. For that reason the headstock was minimized in length and weight. As soon as I received the bass I realized (and posted on TB) that it was easily good enough to be a #1, even for a picky bassist. As time passed the marketing shifted away from emphasizing the travel-friendliness as much. The instruments stand on their overall merits. That said, I suspect the esthetics of the smaller headstock turned some people off, plus they got into producing fender replacement necks, hence the current "custom" neck with the 3+1 headstock. I prefer passive basses so I can't comment on the Klos preamp, but the ones I have produce excellent, flexible tone with zero noise. Back when I owned the Zon & Modulus those models were available with many custom features (different pup options, many cool finishes, scale lengths, bridges, etc) which is not the case for Klos. That has nothing to do with quality, however. Both Modulus and Zon were born in an excellent economy when the 'net was young and more folks were flush. The current reality is far removed from those days and the barriers to success of a small business selling a discretionary item in a widely populated field are enormous. I am glad the guys at Klos have had the perseverance to stay with it.
I have had zero issues with my 2 Apollos, but have had numerous questions / unusual shipping needs, etc and their service has been rapid, courteous and accurate. I have no affiliation with them. I am simply a thoroughly satisfied customer and I recommend them highly. Mine are both currently set up BEAD, one with Labella low tension flats and the other with DR Pure Blues
 

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The one that caught my eye is $3100 but not a fan of their "headless" design. In theory, it should be very stable as they employ a composite fingerboard which is virtually impervious to climate changes. Not so when gluing a conventional rosewood slab (...whatever) to a composite neck...the truss rod comes in really handy, trust me.

Riis
 
I prefer my Q5 over the Klos I played. It wasn’t bad, something about how light weight it was threw me off. Neck shape was nice. I prefer my Status P fender over it as well. Was a super lively bass and it didn’t supper from one of the struggles I’ve always had with the Moddy, taming that high end, mine is a sweet spot as well so that plays into it with the EMG combo. The Klos was a mighty fine instrument. It was used from Music Go Round for $700. One of the original white ones. Hindsight I should have bought it but I walked out with a Thinline Tele that day.
 
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Basses, bike frames, archery equipment, and the Titanic Tritan submersible....well, 3 out of 4 ain't bad.

Riis
There's a good Netflix documentary on the Titan disaster called "OceanGate Disaster".
Spoiler - Carbon Fiber wasn't really the problem. Ignoring a whole lot of warnings and test cases, and signs of ongoing wear and degradation - much bigger part of the problem. Getting registered in a country that did not require safety checks is a sign of the above...
 
I owned a modulus VJ and a Zon Sonus back in the day. Right now I own 2 Klos Apollos. I bought the 1st one about 3 years ago. It's the older style small 2+2 headstock that is currently spec'ed on their "standard" model. The 2nd one is their "custom" model purchased about 6 months ago with the newer 3+1 headstock . Both are superb basses. Although a long-term road test will require a few more years, I can happily say the quality of the necks and overall builds is excellent and on par with the Zon and Modulus I used to own. These necks are also lighter, making the basses lighter overall, with excellent balance. Both necks are super stable, which is particularly sweet up here where humidity varies VERY widely with the seasons. My wooden necks all require seasonal truss rod tweaks in early winter and late spring, but not these.-IMHO there is no quality difference between the 2 necks. The tuners on the "custom" neck are a bit smoother. When they initially came out, a big part of the marketing was that the necks can be easily & rapidly removed because there are perfectly machined/engineered tapped inserts in the body, making it a great bass to travel with. This is all true. The neck pops off in a minute with a provided mini Philips screwdriver and there's no need to readjust anything when it's reattached. . That was the prime reason I bought the 1st one. For that reason the headstock was minimized in length and weight. As soon as I received the bass I realized (and posted on TB) that it was easily good enough to be a #1, even for a picky bassist. As time passed the marketing shifted away from emphasizing the travel-friendliness as much. The instruments stand on their overall merits. That said, I suspect the esthetics of the smaller headstock turned some people off, plus they got into producing fender replacement necks, hence the current "custom" neck with the 3+1 headstock. I prefer passive basses so I can't comment on the Klos preamp, but the ones I have produce excellent, flexible tone with zero noise. Back when I owned the Zon & Modulus those models were available with many custom features (different pup options, many cool finishes, scale lengths, bridges, etc) which is not the case for Klos. That has nothing to do with quality, however. Both Modulus and Zon were born in an excellent economy when the 'net was young and more folks were flush. The current reality is far removed from those days and the barriers to success of a small business selling a discretionary item in a widely populated field are enormous. I am glad the guys at Klos have had the perseverance to stay with it.
I have had zero issues with my 2 Apollos, but have had numerous questions / unusual shipping needs, etc and their service has been rapid, courteous and accurate. I have no affiliation with them. I am simply a thoroughly satisfied customer and I recommend them highly. Mine are both currently set up BEAD, one with Labella low tension flats and the other with DR Pure Blues

Thanks for sharing, this is very valuable feedback.

I need to get a KLOS at some point but I think the main difference might not be the neck but actually the rest of the instrument (the body)

I had a few ZON passing through my hand and while the neck is probably the magic sauce the body and wood crafting is EXCELLENT and should not be underestimated. "strangely" enough Joe Zon is a believer in woodtone and I believe he's the one who mastered the best getting that wood & carbon combination

That says the G.Gould are fantastic, easier to get, slightly different neck profile but amazing instruments
 
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I’ve owned Modulus, GGould (3 times) plus several J and P builds with Status Fender necks. I recently received a Klos short scale 4 string. All the build quality boxes are checked on the Klos: neck (indistinguishable from Status), millwork, fit/finish and hardware. Frankly I love the light weight. In fairness, I’m still experimenting/deciding on strings.

My only reservation is (possibly) with the Klos proprietary preamp. Even with that I’m keeping an open mind. But admittedly, I’m a preamp junky. I’ve enjoyed Barts, East, several filter varieties and even the run of the mill EMGs and I’m itching to experiment.

Either way, the bass is a keeper and definitely not a cheapy for a new instrument. Today’s prices on Modulus Gould and the others are not reasonable for the product. Further, I’m a short scale guy - where else can I find a 30” graphite neck, with or without a bass attached? I can’t comment on anyone who’s have a poor experience with Klos but I haven’t. Nonetheless I’m looking forward to hearing other comments and experiences from users.