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Same here. "No-spin" is pretty limited. Spinning throw packs more oomph but is very distance-specific.
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Knives!
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It's been a while since I got a new knife so I decided to get a Manix 2 with dark blue G-10 and S110V steel. To my surprise, the liners weren't skeletonized which is disappointing because that's one of the main reasons I bought it. I already have an all black Manix 2 with full liners and it's a bit on the heavy side. Besides that, the knife is killer. Looks great and the fit and finish are perfection. Except for the liners. 
Anyway, I didn't use it because I'm going to try to exchange it so I don't know how the steel is but it's definitely classic Spyderco - scary sharp out of the box.
Anyway, I didn't use it because I'm going to try to exchange it so I don't know how the steel is but it's definitely classic Spyderco - scary sharp out of the box.
I have a few Bokers, Benchmades & Cold Steels, but my pride & joy is the Loveless I inherited from my father.
It is almost identical to the one pictured here...
It is almost identical to the one pictured here...
I sucked but when I did do it was decade or more since the Internet and about two decades before YouTube so my education was Kung Fu magazines and kung fu theater which means all I knew was spin throws. I did find awesome YouTube videos how to throw knives without them spinning.
And I hear you on the not using the Benchmade but this is how I look at it too, if the Benchmade is what you carrying, wouldn't you prefer to be efficient/familiar with throwing that? It's like carrying a gun but only practicing with other guns which is why I got rid of all my 22's. I realized I need to get efficient with these two so I trimmed my collection down to two 9mm and 1 Shotgun. Why? Because that is what I would use if the situation were to ever present itself.
I am not looking for trouble at all nor purposely try to be a hero, but if for some reason I find myself in that situation I want to confident with what I have.
When I lived in your neighborhood, I went to the Kershaw in Wilsonville sale every year. I remember my wife once telling me as I was headed to the show, "I don't need any more knifes or scissors."
I was at knife shows a couple of times. This one guy had this sweet Benchmade and it was the ONLY knife he had and was selling. When he told me the price I told him that was way to steep and he was just pissed off about that but he was pissed even before I looked.
Why would anyone get a location to sell one knife? It was a Benchmade Butterfly Knife.
Regarding knife throwing and self defense:
In the mid 90s I was very much into all forms of self defense, including edged weapons. Overall, I've had about 75 hours of formal edged weapons training from expert instructors. In each class I took, there was inevitably one guy who would ask about throwing a knife as self defense. Universally, the instructors shot down this premise on a number of fundamental truths:
- Fighting with a knife is exclusively about blood loss. Rarely does one single stab result in the blood loss needed to immediately incapacitate an attacker. And the average folder isn't long enough to reach most vital organs by the average user, which means that multiple strikes will be needed to cause significant blood loss.
- The average thrown knife will likely penetrate only 1-2 inches. It will not reach vital organs, assuming you make contact at all. Speaking of:
- Most knife throwers can't reliable hit a small target under perfect circumstances. Under pressure, with a moving target, you'll probably miss entirely. Once that happens:
- If you're fighting with a knife, it typically means you've either exhausted your other weapons, or it's the only weapon you had to begin with. Once you've thrown it, and likely missed, you have nothing.
- Finally, folders lack the balance and aerodynamics to be thrown consistently.
I feel you on the familiarity angle. Totally reasonable. Makes perfect sense. However, if I'm in a scenario so nasty that it requires me to pull my knife in self defense, throwing the thing is gonna be far down on my list. I'd rather practice retention techniques and movement drills etc. Know where to strike and where you risk chipping a blade on bone. You know, the important things in life! As a last resort I'd throw my knife, therefore it'd be the last thing I really learn. But, point taken. Maybe I'll get something that's a good target and still protects my knife if I get squirrelly with a throw. Bunch of hay bales maybe?
I have collected pocket knives since my father visited us in the Phillipines when he was on leave from Vietnam. Since August 11, when they became legal in Illinois to own for people with Firearm ID card holders (FOID,) I have collecting autos (switchblades.)
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I've owned many knives in the past, but the one that's held through with me, through my moves back & forth between countries, is my Manila Folder:
440 SS blade, aluminum handles, brass pins
it could slice the wings off the back of a housefly in flight
I got it at the source, in the Philippines.
People pay top $$ for these nowadays.
440 SS blade, aluminum handles, brass pins
it could slice the wings off the back of a housefly in flight
I got it at the source, in the Philippines.
People pay top $$ for these nowadays.
Here is what happens when you are a dumb kid and play with knives.
If you look at the line down the nail, you will notice an angled scar running across the finger. That was a cut that basically took the top of my finger off to the bone, including slicing my nail into two pieces. I had disobeyed my parents and used my mom's knife shapener to put a shaving edge on an old pocket knife i was given by my dad, then proceeded to remove most of the top of my finger from the first joint forward. I was so affraid of dissapointing my folks i tried to hide it from them but that only lasted till dinner the night it happened, after i disposed of the chunk i cut off i wrapped it in a white pocket hanky but even after a few hours it was still bleeding enough to soak a pocket handkerchief in about 10 minutes.
LSS they took me to the hospital where they shaved some of the meat off and pulled the skin together with some stitches. The split in the nail actually marks the boundry between two separate nails. The small part comes up from under the larger part. They kinda sorta bond but have been known to come apart.
Oh, and here is the straight blade i keep in the map pocket of my van door.
If you look at the line down the nail, you will notice an angled scar running across the finger. That was a cut that basically took the top of my finger off to the bone, including slicing my nail into two pieces. I had disobeyed my parents and used my mom's knife shapener to put a shaving edge on an old pocket knife i was given by my dad, then proceeded to remove most of the top of my finger from the first joint forward. I was so affraid of dissapointing my folks i tried to hide it from them but that only lasted till dinner the night it happened, after i disposed of the chunk i cut off i wrapped it in a white pocket hanky but even after a few hours it was still bleeding enough to soak a pocket handkerchief in about 10 minutes.
LSS they took me to the hospital where they shaved some of the meat off and pulled the skin together with some stitches. The split in the nail actually marks the boundry between two separate nails. The small part comes up from under the larger part. They kinda sorta bond but have been known to come apart.
Oh, and here is the straight blade i keep in the map pocket of my van door.
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The last couple years, I've been alternating between the Kershaw and the (copper-colored) Ken Onion.
My edc is this one...using it to open feed sacks and boxes is kinda like driving a Hummer to the Walmart...unnecessary, but comforting.
ZT0200ST. Sadly, now out of production, very hard to find. When ZT cancelled them I bought two extras as backup.
For those times when I need a fixed blade, I still have a Camillus kabar I was issued in '68. Looks like this.
For brush and trimming, I use a Brazilian machete made by Tramontina.
These are tools. I open things, cut things, trim things with them. If I ever feel the need to protect myself I'll use something that requires less exertion. Mossberg, Ruger, and Taurus all make nice ones.
ZT0200ST. Sadly, now out of production, very hard to find. When ZT cancelled them I bought two extras as backup.
For those times when I need a fixed blade, I still have a Camillus kabar I was issued in '68. Looks like this.
For brush and trimming, I use a Brazilian machete made by Tramontina.
These are tools. I open things, cut things, trim things with them. If I ever feel the need to protect myself I'll use something that requires less exertion. Mossberg, Ruger, and Taurus all make nice ones.
Picked up these Gerbers from Amazon during the Black Friday sale at about half off.
