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LAKLAND OWNERS GROUP #29

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quick action shot from this weekend
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I must be getting wiser..or dumber, or something. I have found that I am completely content with passive 4 string basses. Now, don't get me wrong...the minute lakland announces a 66-94 or whatever it may be, I will be the first in line to buy one...but my ACDJ and BG4 are totally killing right now. I could use some pragmatic advice from guys who have tried these things. I am thinking about putting a J-Retro in my ACDJ. Now, I knwo I said I liked it passive, but an active EQ would be nice for some of the stuff I do. Do I look at a J-Retro or an Audere? Anyone who has used them would be more than welcome to chime in. I am also considering possibly getting a decade to go with my other two. I can listen to the clips online, but I would like some real world reviews from those who have them. If I got a decade, should I make it active and leave my DJ passive? Hmmmmmmm
 
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bamabass said:
I must be getting wiser..or dumber, or something. I have found that I am completely content with passive 4 string basses. Now, don't get me wrong...the minute lakland announces a 66-94 or whatever it may be, I will be the first in line to buy one...but my ACDJ and BG4 are totally killing right now. I could use some pragmatic advice from guys who have tried these things. I am thinking about putting a J-Retro in my ACDJ. Now, I knwo I said I liked it passive, but an active EQ would be nice for some of the stuff I do. Do I look at a J-Retro or an Audere? Anyone who has used them would be more than welcome to chime in. I am also considering possibly getting a decade to go with my other two. I can listen to the clips online, but I would like some real world reviews from those who have them. If I got a decade, should I make it active and leave my DJ passive? Hmmmmmmm
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if you want a j-retro for your DJ, give me a heads up
 
#678
bamabass said:
Do I look at a J-Retro or an Audere? Anyone who has used them would be more than welcome to chime in...
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I'm a huge Audere fan. I have one in my JO5.

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I think they sound very much like your passive instrument with everything flat.

I like especially like the Z mode.

Some people complain about the Z switch location, but I've never had a problem with it.

I think it's an excellent addition to a great sounding passive instrument.

I don't know much about the J retro, but I know it's based on Marcus Miller's preamp.
 
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bamabass said:
I could use some pragmatic advice from guys who have tried these things. I am thinking about putting a J-Retro in my ACDJ. Now, I knwo I said I liked it passive, but an active EQ would be nice for some of the stuff I do. Do I look at a J-Retro or an Audere? Anyone who has used them would be more than welcome to chime in. I am also considering possibly getting a decade to go with my other two.
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I've owned 3 J-retro's and 2 Audere pre's, so I think I can help. Of course none of them were in a Lakland.

The J-retro: In short, don't do it. If you like your passive sounds, don't go with the J-retro. It boosts the lows and highs right out of the gate, and colors the tone. It's a modern sounding pre. Quality is top notch of course, and it's killer for those who want a Marcus-y active thing. Output is pretty hot, but not blazing.

Audere: Excellent pre as well, just like the J-retro, but very different. In mid-Z mode, the Audere retains the passive sound of the bass when the EQ is flat. The other Z-modes had very little use to me, but they basically brighten or darken the tone. It's a bit too extreme for my tastes. The 2-band version is VERY different from the 3-band version. The 2-band has a very high frequency center on the lows, and a fairly low center on the highs. It is not the model to choose if you want to get a modern sound at all. It is however EXCELLENT for those times when you love your passive sound, but just want a little more fatness down bottom, as it basicaly boosts the lows and low-mids at the same time. The treble knob on the 2-band acts as a quasi-PTC to some extent when you want to cut highs. Turning it up doesn't add treble or ping, but more of that grind. Think Geddy Lee, not Marcus Miller.

The 3-band Audere is a lower center bass control, and a higher-centered treble control, with a mid-center that lets you boost for some extra "cut", or scoop the mids for slap. The treble is more glassy and pingy than the 2-band, but it's still not a razor top end. The bass control opens the low end a good bit without making it as fat and old-school as the 2-band. It's still not as zingy and modern sounding as the J-retro, as it still retains the passive sound of your bass when flat, and has a less "open" voice when you start boosting. IMO this is a good thing since it's not as extreme, but if you really want a pre that gets very zingy, I'd go with the J-retro.

IMO, I would leave that DJ passive and get an outboard pre, such as the Sadowsky, Aguilar or even the J-retro. You'll be able to sculpt just as well with that, but still have your passive bass intact.
 
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Eublet said:
I've owned 3 J-retro's and 2 Audere pre's, so I think I can help. Of course none of them were in a Lakland.

The J-retro: In short, don't do it. If you like your passive sounds, don't go with the J-retro. It boosts the lows and highs right out of the gate, and colors the tone. It's a modern sounding pre. Quality is top notch of course, and it's killer for those who want a Marcus-y active thing. Output is pretty hot, but not blazing.

Audere: Excellent pre as well, just like the J-retro, but very different. In mid-Z mode, the Audere retains the passive sound of the bass when the EQ is flat. The other Z-modes had very little use to me, but they basically brighten or darken the tone. It's a bit too extreme for my tastes. The 2-band version is VERY different from the 3-band version. The 2-band has a very high frequency center on the lows, and a fairly low center on the highs. It is not the model to choose if you want to get a modern sound at all. It is however EXCELLENT for those times when you love your passive sound, but just want a little more fatness down bottom, as it basicaly boosts the lows and low-mids at the same time. The treble knob on the 2-band acts as a quasi-PTC to some extent when you want to cut highs. Turning it up doesn't add treble or ping, but more of that grind. Think Geddy Lee, not Marcus Miller.

The 3-band Audere is a lower center bass control, and a higher-centered treble control, with a mid-center that lets you boost for some extra "cut", or scoop the mids for slap. The treble is more glassy and pingy than the 2-band, but it's still not a razor top end. The bass control opens the low end a good bit without making it as fat and old-school as the 2-band. It's still not as zingy and modern sounding as the J-retro, as it still retains the passive sound of your bass when flat, and has a less "open" voice when you start boosting. IMO this is a good thing since it's not as extreme, but if you really want a pre that gets very zingy, I'd go with the J-retro.

IMO, I would leave that DJ passive and get an outboard pre, such as the Sadowsky, Aguilar or even the J-retro. You'll be able to sculpt just as well with that, but still have your passive bass intact.
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Thanks Jason. That makes sense and I have been looking for a few other goodies to put on my pedaltrain mini...lol
 
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