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LAKLAND OWNERS GROUP #29

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mattygbass said:
quick action shot from this weekend
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Forgot about this one. Nice man! That's a maple neck I would rock!
 
#683
Nice post dude! What does the 2-band run?

Eublet said:
I've owned 3 J-retro's and 2 Audere pre's, so I think I can help. Of course none of them were in a Lakland.

The J-retro: In short, don't do it. If you like your passive sounds, don't go with the J-retro. It boosts the lows and highs right out of the gate, and colors the tone. It's a modern sounding pre. Quality is top notch of course, and it's killer for those who want a Marcus-y active thing. Output is pretty hot, but not blazing.

Audere: Excellent pre as well, just like the J-retro, but very different. In mid-Z mode, the Audere retains the passive sound of the bass when the EQ is flat. The other Z-modes had very little use to me, but they basically brighten or darken the tone. It's a bit too extreme for my tastes. The 2-band version is VERY different from the 3-band version. The 2-band has a very high frequency center on the lows, and a fairly low center on the highs. It is not the model to choose if you want to get a modern sound at all. It is however EXCELLENT for those times when you love your passive sound, but just want a little more fatness down bottom, as it basicaly boosts the lows and low-mids at the same time. The treble knob on the 2-band acts as a quasi-PTC to some extent when you want to cut highs. Turning it up doesn't add treble or ping, but more of that grind. Think Geddy Lee, not Marcus Miller.

The 3-band Audere is a lower center bass control, and a higher-centered treble control, with a mid-center that lets you boost for some extra "cut", or scoop the mids for slap. The treble is more glassy and pingy than the 2-band, but it's still not a razor top end. The bass control opens the low end a good bit without making it as fat and old-school as the 2-band. It's still not as zingy and modern sounding as the J-retro, as it still retains the passive sound of your bass when flat, and has a less "open" voice when you start boosting. IMO this is a good thing since it's not as extreme, but if you really want a pre that gets very zingy, I'd go with the J-retro.

IMO, I would leave that DJ passive and get an outboard pre, such as the Sadowsky, Aguilar or even the J-retro. You'll be able to sculpt just as well with that, but still have your passive bass intact.
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#688
MarkusBass said:
Nice dude! That was my favorite pickguard! Roger doesn't need a file from me?
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Thanks!

The folks doing the install are gonna build a basic black guard based on a template of that one that I made out of cardboard. They'll put that on then rout for the pickups, that way it will match 'perfectly'. I'll send that guard up to Roger and get a few different ones made (white and black pearloids and who knows what else!).
 
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Eublet said:
Audere: Excellent pre as well, just like the J-retro, but very different. In mid-Z mode, the Audere retains the passive sound of the bass when the EQ is flat. The other Z-modes had very little use to me, but they basically brighten or darken the tone. It's a bit too extreme for my tastes. The 2-band version is VERY different from the 3-band version. The 2-band has a very high frequency center on the lows, and a fairly low center on the highs. It is not the model to choose if you want to get a modern sound at all. It is however EXCELLENT for those times when you love your passive sound, but just want a little more fatness down bottom, as it basicaly boosts the lows and low-mids at the same time. The treble knob on the 2-band acts as a quasi-PTC to some extent when you want to cut highs. Turning it up doesn't add treble or ping, but more of that grind. Think Geddy Lee, not Marcus Miller.

The 3-band Audere is a lower center bass control, and a higher-centered treble control, with a mid-center that lets you boost for some extra "cut", or scoop the mids for slap. The treble is more glassy and pingy than the 2-band, but it's still not a razor top end. The bass control opens the low end a good bit without making it as fat and old-school as the 2-band. It's still not as zingy and modern sounding as the J-retro, as it still retains the passive sound of your bass when flat, and has a less "open" voice when you start boosting. IMO this is a good thing since it's not as extreme, but if you really want a pre that gets very zingy, I'd go with the J-retro.

IMO, I would leave that DJ passive and get an outboard pre, such as the Sadowsky, Aguilar or even the J-retro. You'll be able to sculpt just as well with that, but still have your passive bass intact.
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You left out one crucial option.

Under the Audere plate are modules to adjust the highs/treble and lows/bass frequencies. The low frequency module also gives you the option of taking the lows down to a very clear 5hz.

















I'm an Audere endorser. TB has a gun to my head forcing me to disclose that.
 
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JAUQO III-X said:
You left out one crucial option.

Under the Audere plate are modules to adjust the highs/treble and lows/bass frequencies. The low frequency module also gives you the option of taking the lows down to a very clear 5hz.

















I'm an Audere endorser/tb has a gun to my head forcing me to disclose that.
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Very cool!...not the gun to your head part;)
 
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JAUQO III-X said:
You left out one crucial option.

Under the Audere plate are modules to adjust the highs/treble and lows/bass frequencies. The low frequency module also gives you the option of taking the lows down to a very clear 5hz.
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Yes that is correct! Thanks!

This allows you to widen the frequency centers a bit (even on a two band) to make it a bit more like an Aguilar OBP-1 or 3. IMO, it would still kill the OBP-3 because the EQ on the Audere is less abrasive sounding. (I replaced two Aggie pre's with Audere's, so I'm quite confident in this statement)

There is a lot of good info on the Audere website about how the EQ contols work, with graphs and charts showing the curves. Dave can customize your preamp for you before it ships.

If you REALLY want to get crazy, have a professional route a hole on the side of the bass for the output jack, and then you can put 4 knobs on the plate to get even more options. The Audere 4 band (which I haven't owned, only played with on a friend's bass) is KILLER! You get a deeper bass control, a deep low-mid for fatness, and perfectly centered upper-mid for scoop or articulation, and a higher, somewhat glassy treble control.

But I digress. Personally, on a good sounding jazz bass, all this is easily done on a good preamp or head. For me, it's all programmed into a TC Electronic RH450, and I can get whatever I want by pushing a button or stepping on a switch. I even use the RH450 as a stand-alone DI box when I go direct and have a monitor feed. The whole reason I played with the Audere/J-retro preamps in the past was because I had an in-ear-monitor gig at a church playing through an Avalon U5. The EQ options on the U5 are very limited, and I had a hard time getting my sound on those passive instruments. It was too time consuming trying to get the FOH engineer to adjust things. So I just experimented with different bass/preamp combo's for a couple years. The East preamps were nice, but the Audere stuff is much more to my liking, and they are much cheaper as well since you don't have to take an exchange rate hit importing from the UK.

I'm not an endorser for Audere, but I would be quite proud to be!
 
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