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Lakland Owners Group #69

Hey have any of you guys played/owned a 44-02 and a G&L Kiloton?
I'm curious about how the bridge pickups compare.
I may mod my kilo to add a jazz pickup in the neck spot, but that would just give me a passive 44-02.
I like the kilo but miss the warmth of a neck pickup.
I've watched plenny vids, but want to ask Lakers themselves: does that neck PU on a 44-02 have that warm traditional j-neck sound and feel?

I’d say yes. From a distant memory
 
And, I’m not disrespecting anyone who can get the same results with hand files. I have done far less refrets and fret level jobs than the pros! But, I’ve also seen a handful of necks with say fret 2 that is way high and fret 19 that is also way high. No one has demonstrated a way to level those two frets, at the same time, to the same height with an 8” file.
That's why YOUR basses are some of the best I've owned
 
Thanks guys!

Hey, hasn’t someone, at some point in time, had a Tbird pickup equipped Lākland? I seem to recall seeing pics. I’m currently building a P with a bird pup and curious as to how many Lakland’s have left Chicago with the beautiful chrome rectangles?
Thanks guys!

Hey, hasn’t someone, at some point in time, had a Tbird pickup equipped Lākland? I seem to recall seeing pics. I’m currently building a P with a bird pup and curious as to how many Lakland’s have left Chicago with the beautiful chrome rectangles?
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Speaking of 51's...

Returning this one to GC due to a couple of issues. According to Lakland, it left in 2019 (7-18 neck date) with a single Novak bisonic in the neck position. A previous owner hacked out the rout for something else and there's a pro install second BS at the bridge. The current bisonics are of a later date and not a matched pair. The neck is now a BS/DS. The truss rod was maxed out with the strings tight against the board. That settled down but there's around 1/2-3/4 of a turn left. There are a couple of weird dings on each side of the horns- weird because they're obviously dings but cannot be felt, like they were filled with something clear. I think the top may have been refinished, considering how clean the bridge pickup rout edges are. If nothing else, it was definitely touched up in the neck area. . I I'd far prefer that pickup in the P sweet spot or just a single on there. All the strings I tired I couldn't get the E sounding like I liked or as good as the other strings. Neither pickup can be flipped to have poles in the other direction as the mounting holes were not drilled in the correct position to allow it. Previously, I've had a few Dark Star and Bisonic basses. Overall, an interesting idea for this bass but sadly, it just isn't the best it should be. If it sold at a "good condition" price like it should have been (was listed as "excellent") it could be a worthwhile project for someone but don't wait on GC to do the right thing. I've only seen that from them once on a returned instrument with issues.

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LH-3 battery connection question. Somewhere in the past a previous owner wired this LH-3 for 18v. I am happy enough with the standard 9v with easy single battery access so I am cleaning things up and returning to the original state. For reasons unknown they had this yellow wire spliced to the red battery box red wire, essentially just an extension, that seems unnecesary. Looking at the wiring diagram I see the red wire would attach where this yellow wire is. But, am I missing a ground wire? Diagram shows one, but that connection point looks untouched.

As it currently is:
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As the diagram shows:
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Speaking of 51's...

Returning this one to GC due to a couple of issues. According to Lakland, it left in 2019 (7-18 neck date) with a single Novak bisonic in the neck position. A previous owner hacked out the rout for something else and there's a pro install second BS at the bridge. The current bisonics are of a later date and not a matched pair. The neck is now a BS/DS. The truss rod was maxed out with the strings tight against the board. That settled down but there's around 1/2-3/4 of a turn left. There are a couple of weird dings on each side of the horns- weird because they're obviously dings but cannot be felt, like they were filled with something clear. I think the top may have been refinished, considering how clean the bridge pickup rout edges are. If nothing else, it was definitely touched up in the neck area. . I I'd far prefer that pickup in the P sweet spot or just a single on there. All the strings I tired I couldn't get the E sounding like I liked or as good as the other strings. Neither pickup can be flipped to have poles in the other direction as the mounting holes were not drilled in the correct position to allow it. Previously, I've had a few Dark Star and Bisonic basses. Overall, an interesting idea for this bass but sadly, it just isn't the best it should be. If it sold at a "good condition" price like it should have been (was listed as "excellent") it could be a worthwhile project for someone but don't wait on GC to do the right thing. I've only seen that from them once on a returned instrument with issues.

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That blows!