Lakland Owners Group #69

[JEDI BASS]

I used to switch between 4 string and 5 string all the time. I never really noticed any problem. I think your wife is right, however, if you are a 5 string player, the 4 string will sit. Mine do.

I’m the exact opposite. I put new strings on my Lakland 5er last night and played it for quite a while. I think my 4s play better at 34” and sound better. Even the low D on my DADG tuned 4s sounds better than the 35” B fretted at the 3rd fret. Just my ear and opinion. I do get it though, there’s more notes in a smaller area on a 5er, and that is convenient.

 

[Holdsg]

Play upright. After that, the diff between 34 and 35 seems quite manageable.

 

[basspraiser]

Play upright. After that, the diff between 34 and 35 seems quite manageable.

I'll attest to that....

 

[basspraiser]

Looks like a new record low for Chicago

 

[3bc]

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its a dry -27.

 

[Drkwdsman]

I switched to a Five string due to a lot of the Worship Music was written in Bb and Eb and the only option was to drop D or play that Eb on the A.

The B opens a low option and the way we change keys on a dime, the B gives me more options. Probably a comfort/safety valve. Maybe I need to get a 4 to shake up my playing a bit.

I played 6ers, then 5ers from 1992 ‘til around 5 years ago when I decided I was going to start enjoying the greater variety of 4 strings, vintage and modern. I also wanted the freedom on stage that a 4 string gives me. I do not have any issue playing my 35” 5er after playing my 34” 4s. I don’t enjoy my 5er as much anymore... it has an extra string that I just don’t need LOL.

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[Drkwdsman]

Play upright. After that, the diff between 34 and 35 seems quite manageable.

I would love to play upright...piano...guitar...etc

 

[Jamvan]

I switched to a Five string due to a lot of the Worship Music was written in Bb and Eb and the only option was to drop D or play that Eb on the A.

The B opens a low option and the way we change keys on a dime, the B gives me more options. Probably a comfort/safety valve. Maybe I need to get a 4 to shake up my playing a bit.

I did similar as my current band plays a lot of capo'd songs and songs leveraging low D, C, and B (country music) so the 4 string just wasn't doing it as I found myself needing to shift too high and losing the bottom end. In all honesty, playing 5 has made me a better player as it forced me to really understand position versus just the notes.

Plus, I find the 5 string more visually appealing from a balance perspective than a 4 (the middle string looks right for some reason). I know, means nothing in the grand scheme of things but my light OCD appreciates it!

Oh, and I still routinely practice songs on a 4 string to keep those chops up.

 

[Drkwdsman]

I did similar as my current band plays a lot of capo'd songs and songs leveraging low D, C, and B (country music) so the 4 string just wasn't doing it as I found myself needing to shift too high and losing the bottom end. In all honesty, playing 5 has made me a better player as it forced me to really understand position versus just the notes.

Plus, I find the 5 string more visually appealing from a balance perspective than a 4 (the middle string looks right for some reason). I know, means nothing in the grand scheme of things but my light OCD appreciates it!

Oh, and I still routinely practice songs on a 4 string to keep those chops up.

I usually practice on my acoustic four string before I get the fiver out.

 

[Jamvan]

I'm coming up on the one-year anniversary of acquiring my very first Lakland; a 55-02 Deluxe. To say I am VERY concerned over what year two may bring is an understatement. I've sold off a LOT of other gear yet am seriously considering entering a 12-step program as I can NOT maintain this overzealous pace (although I'm still pondering one more, @mark beem! ). Fortunately, they're all Skylines because I'd be divorced if they were US models.

L-R: DJ4, 55-02 Deluxe, 55-60 Custom, MIK 55-02 w/Barts, 55-60 (Missing: a 55-64?)

There's only one I've not yet fully bonded with and that is the DJ4. It sounds great on it's own but when I play along with music, it disappears. I haven't tried it in a band context yet but it's all scooped and I prefer more mids in my tone. I have an Audere Pre I picked up here that I've yet to install but if that doesn't help, I may need to move on it. It's BEAUTIFUL though and I love the paint job on it even if the cruddy phone pics don't do it justice.

 

[3bc]

I'm coming up on the one-year anniversary of acquiring my very first Lakland; a 55-02 Deluxe. To say I am VERY concerned over what year two may bring is an understatement. I've sold off a LOT of other gear yet am seriously considering entering a 12-step program as I can NOT maintain this overzealous pace (although I'm still pondering one more, @mark beem! ). Fortunately, they're all Skylines because I'd be divorced if they were US models.

L-R: DJ4, 55-02 Deluxe, 55-60 Custom, MIK 55-02 w/Barts, 55-60 (Missing: a 55-64?)
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There's only one I've not yet fully bonded with and that is the DJ4. It sounds great on it's own but when I play along with music, it disappears. I haven't tried it in a band context yet but it's all scooped and I prefer more mids in my tone. I have an Audere Pre I picked up here that I've yet to install but if that doesn't help, I may need to move on it. It's BEAUTIFUL though and I love the paint job on it even if the cruddy phone pics don't do it justice.

You know, there’s a bit of redundancy there - you could probably turn a few of those into a US lakland, or all of them into 2. Not that they’ll sound any better (I’ve born that out), but my new 44-94 was the biggest GAS killer I’ve ever encountered. May have something to do with the fact that I’ve wanted a US lakland for basically 20 years. I feel totally at peace with my one bass, one rig.

 

[Jamvan]

You know, there’s a bit of redundancy there - you could probably turn a few of those into a US lakland, or all of them into 2. Not that they’ll sound any better (I’ve born that out), but my new 44-94 was the biggest GAS killer I’ve ever encountered. May have something to do with the fact that I’ve wanted a US lakland for basically 20 years. I feel totally at peace with my one bass, one rig.

I was a Jazz guy forever but the 55-02 D is my overall #1. I picked up the second 55-02 as a backup and to try the Barts and these both are my primary players now but I do see a 55-94 in my future...just not sure when. I still play the 55-60 Custom but the second 55-60 (sporting flats) and the DJ4 spend a lot of time hanging on the wall. I actually am testing the local waters with the DJ4 but am in no hurry to sell.

 

[Drkwdsman]

I was a Jazz guy forever but the 55-02 D is my overall #1. I picked up the second 55-02 as a backup and to try the Barts and these both are my primary players now but I do see a 55-94 in my future...just not sure when. I still play the 55-60 Custom but the second 55-60 (sporting flats) and the DJ4 spend a lot of time hanging on the wall. I actually am testing the local waters with the DJ4 but am in no hurry to sell.

My 55-94 is my go to, but lately, I have gone to my 55-63 with Sadowsky preamp with VTC.

My Custom Roscoe LG3005 needs a set-up, so I just use it for practice (b/c I am lazy and do not want to take to the shop yet).

 

[3bc]

I was a Jazz guy forever but the 55-02 D is my overall #1. I picked up the second 55-02 as a backup and to try the Barts and these both are my primary players now but I do see a 55-94 in my future...just not sure when. I still play the 55-60 Custom but the second 55-60 (sporting flats) and the DJ4 spend a lot of time hanging on the wall. I actually am testing the local waters with the DJ4 but am in no hurry to sell.

I am biased as an active bass guy. My main player has been active since 1998 (carvin, then Warwick, then lakland). But i find the LH3 system versatile enough to not really need another bass. I can get 90% or more of a J sound and P sound, and it has enough of it’s own sound and character that i enjoy (a little bit hi fi without sacrificing the nice round sound the is just classic bass guitar tone). I understand there are a lot of great tones out there that i CAN’T get out of this bass (my old Warwick $$ had a great, dark, growling sound I could never coax out of this bass), but I can get 3 or 4 great, different, musical tones out of it that I really enjoy, and that is way more than I need or could ask for.

 

[Holdsg]

@Jamvan , I think I had 5 at one point. No one is here to judge you

 

[Jamvan]

@Jamvan , I think I had 5 at one point. No one is here to judge you

Sounds like I may have entered step 1.

 

[Holdsg]

-- everyone say hi to Jamvan....Hi Jamvan

 

[Jim C]

Just got a used 44-02
I've serached for an owner's manual and the site I found looks suspicious (wants me to add Chrome which I have and to add an extension).
Anyone know of a safe way to get this manual?

 

[Jamvan]

Just got a used 44-02
I've serached for an owner's manual and the site I found looks suspicious (wants me to add Chrome which I have and to add an extension).
Anyone know of a safe way to get this manual?

Not a manual for the 44-02 per se but follow [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] and open the LH-3 Control Diagram, LH-3 Wiring Diagram, and Alternate Midrange LH-3 Settings documents. The Bartolini control layout document is here as well if it's an older 44-02. This should give you what you're looking for as it relates to control settings and user adjustments you can make. The FAQ section on this page provides setup information as well if you're looking to do your own setups.

 

[Jim C]

Thanks very much!
Just got a used 44-02 in the mail yesterday and took it to a rehearsal last night.
Love this bass.