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Lakland Owners Group #69

Doug, you’ve said this before. And, it’s incorrect: scale length is determined by measuring from nut to 12th fret and multiplying that x 2. Sexual Chocolate w/ her 55-94 neck is exactly 17.5” from nut to 12th.... 35” scale.

You are correct in that it makes the open E sound better. The open A is better too, IMO/IME. I feel the D and G sound and play better at 34” or even shorter ala Ric. But, we can’t have it all, and fanned frets are not as easy to adjust to as people say, especially if you’ve been playing for over 30 years.

I stand corrected..I was talking more about " reach"...

Since they move the bridge a bit
.. The reach is not as far as some of the other 35"s I've played .

But you are correct
 
I stand corrected..I was talking more about " reach"...

Since they move the bridge a bit
.. The reach is not as far as some of the other 35"s I've played .

But you are correct
Oh yeah, for sure!! Lakland 5ers fretting hand reach feels like a 34” bass. I have a Gibson RD shaped bass that’s headstock is a mile away, and I played a Thumb the other day that feels similar. A short or non-existent upper horn and neck shifted bridge causes this. I always eyeball where the upper horn ends on a bass. The strap button needs to be fairly even with the 12th fret, for me to like playing it.
 
I would love to find a used Lakland BG5! Its been on my wishlist for a while. I see a few used Skyline versions on Reverb, but I want the US version.

One is for sale in Europe:

US Lakland Bob Glaub 5

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Only because they are pre cut for a 35" Lakland already I thought I'd offer here as well. Drop right in.

For Sale - DR Strings Hi Beams MR5-45 45-125 Used
I just put the same gauges of Hi Beams (XLs through body) on my Lakland 5er and I’m not thrilled with the tension either. I love them on my 4 string 34” basses. But, I don’t think I’ll be able to get the action where I like it without a higher tension set. I haven’t played my 5er in a band setting in years, and I remember using DR Longnecks and MTD stainless sets (135 B and 105-45) on it before. I’ll probably order a set of Longnecks or D’addario steels.
 
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I don’t know whether to post this here or in the string forum:

Just put a set of Ernie Ball round Nickel Slinky’s on my 44-01 and the whole set sound old. I don’t mean after a few weeks or days I mean from the second I put them on! Anyone else ever have that happen? First time I’ve used them but the Dunlop nickels I put on my Ibanez make it growl and sing. What could be up with them?
 
I don’t know whether to post this here or in the string forum:

Just put a set of Ernie Ball round Nickel Slinky’s on my 44-01 and the whole set sound old. I don’t mean after a few weeks or days I mean from the second I put them on! Anyone else ever have that happen? First time I’ve used them but the Dunlop nickels I put on my Ibanez make it growl and sing. What could be up with them?

That's been my experience with Ernie Ball. You might want to give Curt Mangan's a try. He used to work for Ernie Ball and his strings are like a well-made Ernie Ball.
 
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I just put the same gauges of Hi Beams (XLs through body) on my Lakland 5er and I’m not thrilled with the tension either. I love them on my 4 string 34” basses. But, I don’t think I’ll be able to get the action where I like it without a higher tension set. I haven’t played my 5er in a band setting in years, and I remember using DR Longnecks and MTD stainless sets (135 B and 105-45) on it before. I’ll probably order a set of Longnecks or D’addario steels.

Interesting aside (and you'd think I'd have this stuff figured out by now...). I installed the Lo Riders today and to my surprise I actually had to loosen the truss rod with these. That surprised me because the info I found on these was that these would be a higher tension string, which in my mind equates to greater overall string pull on the neck, which should have required me to tighten the truss rod to compensate for that pull. But that was not the case. And, the Lo Riders are a 130 B. I know this is so because I just set this same bass up with the Hi Beams a week ago. Yet the Hi Beams feel flexier and the Lo Riders feel stiffer and more solid in use, which I stilll prefer I guess. I know it's a core thing for the overall flex and feel but the tension dfference has me baffled.
 
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Interesting aside (and you'd think I'd have this stuff figured out by now...). I installed the Lo Riders today and to my surprise I actually had to loosen the truss rod with these. That surprised me because the info I found on these was that these would be a higher tension string, which in my mind equates to greater overall string pull on the neck, which should have required me to tighten the truss rod to compensate for that pull. But that was not the case. And, the Lo Riders are a 130 B. I know this is so because I just set this same bass up with the Hi Beams a week ago. Yet the Hi Beams feel flexier and the Lo Riders feel stiffer and more solid in use, which I stilll prefer I guess. I know it's a core thing for the overall flex and feel but the tension dfference has me baffled.
It could very well be that we are equating stiffness with tension, and it may not be the case. And actually, the more I think about it, the more I want to smack myself in the forehead! I can spray a loose piece of twine with hairspray and make it stiff. So duh, string stiffness/flexibility is a product of construction technique and components. A stiffer string (like a hex core) could tune to pitch with less tension than a same diameter round core.
 
I tried for that one a little earlier this week, and whilst I have a bass that the seller is interested in.....one too many strings for him lol. Certainly a nice specimen, guess i’ll have to wait until 2020 for my Mocha/Maple 55-64 :D

Si

Mocha maple...

Sounds like a Starbucks beverage.... And A GREAT 5564!
 
OK, my apologies for being both ignorant and late to this party. I hear Bob Glaub's name tossed around here all the time what with his signature model and all but I am ashamed to say I had no idea who he was. Damn. And I thought Sklar was versitile. Really an incredible career and looking froward to digging a bit deeper. For fans I did find this fairly recent NAMM 2019 interview that appears to not have had such broad appeal but I found to be a great introduction to the man.

Forgive me if this has been posted before:




And the amazing discography and more than a few songs I know and love but never knew he was the bassist.

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OK, my apologies for being both ignorant and late to this party. I hear Bob Glaub's name tossed around here all the time what with his signature model and all but I am ashamed to say I had no idea who he was. Damn. And I thought Sklar was versitile. Really an incredible career and looking froward to digging a bit deeper. For fans I did find this fairly recent NAMM 2019 interview that appears to not have had such broad appeal but I found to be a great introduction to the man.

Forgive me if this has been posted before:




And the amazing discography and more than a few songs I know and love but never knew he was the bassist.

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That's a great interview!
 
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Can the necks of the US models 44-60 and 44-64 be swapped? Anyone tried this? There are posts of people trying this with Skylines but not on the US models.
Should be swappable. They have the same number of frets, and I would bet money that the screwholes match right up. I would check for a slight neck pocket gap since the 44-60 has a jazz taper, and the 44-64 tapers less due to the wider nut. But, I’d bet there’s no gap at all.
 
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