Lakland Owners Group #69

[MaxSpinrun]

I used to only play passive 4’s for everything I did. Then I found Lakland and joined a country band and, well…

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Yes I agree with Doug. Great family pic! With those should have everything covered. Speaking of bonding, I’m still bonding with my 44-02.
Opinions on partial or full pickguards that extends into the lower horn.

 

[basspraiser]

Max

I say extend it to the lower horn!

That would like great and different

 

[JEDI BASS]

Playing in a PW band…

Possum Water?

Max

I say extend it to the lower horn!

That would like great and different

OMG… we agree! ;-)

 

[basspraiser]

Possum Water?

OMG… we agree! ;-)

Yes on both accounts...

 

[basspraiser]

PW = praise and worship band

It's known simply as PW in the business

WL = worship leader.... Or general pain in the .... Well you know....

 

[Thom Fioriglio]

I used to only play passive 4’s for everything I did. Then I found Lakland and joined a country band and, well…

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Are the J's and P's in that collection also active?

 

[JEDI BASS]

PW = praise and worship band

It's known simply as PW in the business

WL = worship leader.... Or general pain in the .... Well you know....

I know… I was just being stupid. I still say the PITA WL needs a BUHA!

 

[Jamvan]

Are the J's and P's in that collection also active?

I have an Audere Pro-Z 4-band in my main gigging bass “Old Glory” but the deluxe J and the two P’s are passive.

 

[Thom Fioriglio]

I have an Audere Pro-Z 4-band in my main gigging bass “Old Glory” but the deluxe J and the two P’s are passive.

Cool thanks. Since I got my 44-02, my first active bass, my passive DJ-4 just sounds thin. I think I may be an active bass guy.

 

[Jamvan]

Cool thanks. Since I got my 44-02, my first active bass, my passive DJ-4 just sounds thin. I think I may be an active bass guy.

I may have mentioned it before but I sent a DJ-4 down the road for this very reason. And that was even after replacing the pickups and adding a pre. Just disappeared in the mix.

 

[nervous]

Cool thanks. Since I got my 44-02, my first active bass, my passive DJ-4 just sounds thin. I think I may be an active bass guy.

Having owned many DJ5, and a few left in stock form, I personally never had an issue with their quality of sound, thinness or disappearing in any mix. That said I have also had some fitted with the East DJ preamp, the Audere 3 band and currently my DJ 5 uses a basic Audere 2 band and the Audere have suited me best for on board live tone shaping. They are a great value and easily cover a wide range of needs. They're far more flexible than passive yet more subtle in their impact that others. A great option.

 

[svtbass]

Having owned many DJ5, and a few left in stock form, I personally never had an issue with their quality of sound, thinness or disappearing in any mix. That said I have also had some fitted with the East DJ preamp, the Audere 3 band and currently my DJ 5 uses a basic Audere 2 band and the Audere have suited me best for on board live tone shaping. They are a great value and easily cover a wide range of needs. They're far more flexible than passive yet more subtle in their impact that others. A great option.

One's instrument disappearing in the mix is co-dependent on what kind of mix you're sitting in.

 

[nervous]

One's instrument disappearing in the mix is co-dependent on what kind of mix you're sitting in.

I get that, but there are so many terms that just get tossed about with this idea that it's iniversally understood when given the countless variables it makes little sense to often blame the instrument. And that doesn't even account for string, amp or cab choices. I have played big shows, small shows, restuarants, casinos, large outdoor and backyard jobs, etc as I am sure we all have and everyone, with the exact same gear, can be radically different. I have rooms where certain notes seem to disappear, others where the same boom terribly, on and on. And like singing, certain psycho acoustic things can play havoc with what you think you hear vs. what gets out into the So this idea of a 'mix' and the instruments failure to perform in it is just so subjective.

And just what 'mix' are we talking about? Your relative place in the song on the stage with your band mates? How it sounds in a recording? Or how it sounds as the final product delivered to a live audience from the mains which I'd add, is just about imnpossible for any player to judge or hear from their vantage point behind the mains, which introduce their own sonic issues at times. The sound person, if you're fortunate to have one, will ultimately be responsible for that anyway.

Not meaning to sound like a rant but i just hear so many statements about guitars and basses over the years that just don't make sense to me anymore. As always, do what works best for you.

 

[Jamvan]

I get that, but there are so many terms that just get tossed about with this idea that it's iniversally understood when given the countless variables it makes little sense to often blame the instrument. And that doesn't even account for string, amp or cab choices. I have played big shows, small shows, restuarants, casinos, large outdoor and backyard jobs, etc as I am sure we all have and everyone, with the exact same gear, can be radically different. I have rooms where certain notes seem to disappear, others where the same boom terribly, on and on. And like singing, certain psycho acoustic things can play havoc with what you think you hear vs. what gets out into the So this idea of a 'mix' and the instruments failure to perform in it is just so subjective.

And just what 'mix' are we talking about? Your relative place in the song on the stage with your band mates? How it sounds in a recording? Or how it sounds as the final product delivered to a live audience from the mains which I'd add, is just about imnpossible for any player to judge or hear from their vantage point behind the mains, which introduce their own sonic issues at times. The sound person, if you're fortunate to have one, will ultimately be responsible for that anyway.

Not meaning to sound like a rant but i just hear so many statements about guitars and basses over the years that just don't make sense to me anymore. As always, do what works best for you.

My apologies if I pressed a button or touched a nerve. If you must know, it was sitting in my practice room playing along with recorded tracks. It never saw the stage or studio as I’m exclusively playing 5-strings in my current band but it likely would not have because I couldn’t get it to sit right playing all by itself against tracks.

The stock pickups in this particular DJ-4 were very scooped with no mids. I added an Audere Pro-Z 4-band preamp (sound familiar?) so I could bring some mids back but that revealed how anemic and bland the pickups were so I added my favorite set of pickups to it and it still didn’t sit right and required cranking up the mids to get something that would “sit in the mix”.

As you saw above, I have plenty of experience with playing a bass in the context of practice, rehearsal, recording, and live, and there was something about this particular bass that just would not make itself heard outside of playing it by itself. I have basses that sit perfectly yet allow for preamp tweaks for individual room characteristics. Others that may require some more advanced upgrades either adding preamps or swapping pickups, and then a few that just don’t cut it for various reasons. This particular one just didn’t have it no matter what I did to it. I’m not ripping on all DJ’s. I’m saying the one I had didn’t work.

But it sure was a looker…(on the bench adding the Audere 4-band)

 

[PeeeBass]

I have an Audere Pro-Z 4-band in my main gigging bass “Old Glory” but the deluxe J and the two P’s are passive.

I used to have an Audere in a DJ5. I loved it, so much, I just had JediBass (JJ), install one in a new build he did for me.
You really can't go wrong for the price point, AND they are so transparent sounding.
They highlight the sound of the pickups wired into them.
I am a big fan. Totally underrated.

 

[odarellmc]

My apologies if I pressed a button or touched a nerve. If you must know, it was sitting in my practice room playing along with recorded tracks. It never saw the stage or studio as I’m exclusively playing 5-strings in my current band but it likely would not have because I couldn’t get it to sit right playing all by itself against tracks.

The stock pickups in this particular DJ-4 were very scooped with no mids. I added an Audere Pro-Z 4-band preamp (sound familiar?) so I could bring some mids back but that revealed how anemic and bland the pickups were so I added my favorite set of pickups to it and it still didn’t sit right and required cranking up the mids to get something that would “sit in the mix”.

As you saw above, I have plenty of experience with playing a bass in the context of practice, rehearsal, recording, and live, and there was something about this particular bass that just would not make itself heard outside of playing it by itself. I have basses that sit perfectly yet allow for preamp tweaks for individual room characteristics. Others that may require some more advanced upgrades either adding preamps or swapping pickups, and then a few that just don’t cut it for various reasons. This particular one just didn’t have it no matter what I did to it. I’m not ripping on all DJ’s. I’m saying the one I had didn’t work.

But it sure was a looker…(on the bench adding the Audere 4-band)
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Do you still have the bass? tried changing string to like steels?

 

[FearNoEvil65]

Does anyone own a USA made sunburst or cherry burst with matching headstock? I'm wondering is matching burst headstock is possible though Lakland ?

 

[JEDI BASS]

Does anyone own a USA made sunburst or cherry burst with matching headstock? I'm wondering is matching burst headstock is possible thought Lakland ?

I don’t think that’s an option, and can’t see it looking “right”.

 

[FearNoEvil65]

I don’t think that’s an option, and can’t see it looking “right”.

I think it looks great personally, it looks more even. Burst on the body and just wood on the headstock doesn't match as well IMO. I realize not everyone likes a matching headstock though. Just not sure Lakland does it. G&L will do it, like this one. But I'd love a Lakland like that someday, especially in Cherry Burst like my 44-02

 

[JEDI BASS]

I think it looks great personally, it looks more even. Burst on the body and just wood on the headstock doesn't match as well IMO. I realize not everyone likes a matching headstock though. Just not sure Lakland does it. G&L will do it, like this one. But I'd love a Lakland like that someday, especially in Cherry Burst like my 44-02 View attachment 5055794

That’s pretty. A 3 tone burst would be too much I bet.