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Larry Graham's bass collection

Nov 23, 2022
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Don't ask me why but I am trying to account for all of Larry's Fender Jazz and post-Jazz basses.
It's strange to me that a bassist so revered has very little ink about his gear.
Usually anything you find is talking about his Moon basses, which are my least favorite of his.

This fascination began because of his unique late era Sly/early GCS tone.
The only other player I heard cop that tone was Larry's protege Keni Burke.
TalkBass solved that mystery for me by informing me that the secret was the tapewound strings Larry and Keni were using. I have no idea what brand of tapewounds these were.
They both eventually switched to rounds.

It seems like his first Jazz was the red one with matching headstock, white pickguard, rosewood(?) fingerboard, pearl inlays and tug bar that he used when we was still with Sly.


Then he was using a white 1970 Jazz with a maple fingerboard, a tort pickguard and black block inlays.
He signed this bass and it sold from a San Francisco shop last year.


From there, a natural finish Jazz with a white pickguard, maple fingerboard and pearl block inlays.


Then the silver Jazz with extended black pickguard (think Marcus Miller), rosewood(?) fingerboard and pearl block inlays.
We start seeing Larry with this bass around 1975-76.


Even though the mod looks identical to the mod Sadowsky did for Marcus Miller years later, it's not a Sadowsky mod and Sadowsky claims he had zero knowledge of Graham or his mod.

Roger Sadowsky said in another thread here on TalkBass
"I created Marcus' pickguard in late 79 or early 80. It was the second bass preamp install I did and the first on a Jazz Bass.
I did not know who Larry Graham was at the time and never saw any photos of him with his bass.
Marcus trusted me completely on the preamp install and did not have any input into the design.
I made room for the electronics and battery with a drill press and a chisel and made the pickguard to cover it all up and provide access to the battery.
Within a few months of doing Marcus' bass, I learned how to make templates and use a router and developed the method of routing from the back and creating just a small cavity for the circuit and the battery."


Seems weird. Sly and the Family Stone were one of the biggest groups on the planet at one time and Larry was prominently featured in that band, but who knows.
Do we know who did Larry's mod? Was it a preamp in the cavity or a wireless transmitter?

Then we see Larry with this thing around 1980 during One In A Million You.


It's a Jazz bass but I don't know if it's Fender.
It has the XLR jack on the body for that extremely goofy mic that he likes.
Other than that, I cant find any information about this bass.
It sounds okay but not my favorite. I remember reading that it's in a Hard Rock Cafe now.

A closer look at it here: Invalid Link Removed

Somewhere in the early 80's, we start seeing him with his Moon bass, but then I remember seeing this:


This is around 83 or 84 and he's rocking a Musicman Sabre (basically a Stingray with two humbuckers instead of one).
EDIT: This is an early 80's G&L L-2000E. The Sabre had the 3+1 tuning peg config, this does not.
It sounds great! Never seen him play this anywhere else. Maybe this is one of his at home basses.

I don't know when this is from or what kind of bass this is. Sounds cool.


From here, we pretty much see him exclusively with his Moon basses. Seems like there have been more than one.

But then I saw this where he's playing a Warwick in 2011


It looks like he allowed them to make a signature model since he uses their amps.
I don't know why, but this sounds terrible. I would have gone back to the Moon, too.

This seemed to be short lived and he's back on the Moon bass.
He does a have a Moon 5 string. The 4 string is named Sunshine, the 5 string is named Moonshine.
He said that the 5 string never leaves the studio and he never plays it live.

Any Graham experts out there?
 
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The only other player I heard cop that tone was Larry's protege Keni Burke.
TalkBass solved that mystery for me by informing me that the secret was the tapewound strings Larry and Keni were using. I have no idea what brand of tapewounds these were.
Very good question. Black nylon tapewound bass guitar strings first appeared in 1962 in UK stores under the Burns of London marque, and were made by James How, who later -1966- sold them under his Rotosound brand. The same year, Fender tapes also started being available. Anecdotically, it seems GHS and La Bella followed suit in short order. Rickenbacker tapewounds also appeared at a not-known-to-me point.

Do you happen to have a good colour shot of Graham's bass at the headstock or bridge area from this period? If silks are yellow, they were probably Rotos (though I've zero clue about the competition's silk).
 
I saw the first few minutes of Questlove’s Sly documentary on Hulu, and there is a quick shot from a live show, during a pretty hyped-up version of Sing A Simple Song, where Larry is playing a black P-bass. The picture quality is pretty awful (sorry), but it looks like a maple neck, presumably early 70’s model. This was a surprise to me as I never knew him to play a P. The audio isn't great, but the bass sound is pretty chunky, definitely more P-like than his usual sound from that era.

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Larry in 1982 w/The Crusaders playing a headless bass. He played it again w/The Crusaders the following year.
Looks like a Kramer Duke. Other guy looks like he's playing an Aria.
Graham is wearin they a** out here


The inside cover of Riot shows Larry with a sunburst Jazz w/ a black pickguard, rosewood(?) fretboard, and pearl inlays.

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This bass could belong to Sly. Sly is pictured playing a similar looking Jazz in 1975.

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The only other player I heard cop that tone was Larry's protege Keni Burke.
TalkBass solved that mystery for me by informing me that the secret was the tapewound strings Larry and Keni were using. I have no idea what brand of tapewounds these were.
Very good question. Black nylon tapewound bass guitar strings first appeared in 1962 in UK stores under the Burns of London marque, and were made by James How, who later -1966- sold them under his Rotosound brand. The same year, Fender tapes also started being available. Anecdotically, it seems GHS and La Bella followed suit in short order. Rickenbacker tapewounds also appeared at a not-known-to-me point.

Do you happen to have a good colour shot of Graham's bass at the headstock or bridge area from this period? If silks are yellow, they were probably Rotos (though I've zero clue about the competition's silk).
Judging from this video, they might indeed be Rotosound Tru Bass:

Strings *may* be black: at the very least, not a single time do they give out a hint of stagelight shine, which all but confirmes they're not flatwounds. Silks definitely look yellow. Also see here (timestamp 25:29 and on) :

Silk is again pretty clearly yellow, and the nice zoom-in on Graham's plucking hand (and ring) shows strings that look black to me.

Conversely, this picture
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and this other picture,
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albeit not undisputably, appear to support the claim despite being both b/w and unable to show any yellowness or lack thereof at the headstock: the transition from black to some colour is clear nonetheless.

As for the Vox, it had flats on in all likelihood (1), (2).

Don't have time to investigate more: have fun, y'all, and sorry for the OT.
 
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Judging from this video, they might indeed be Rotosound Tru Bass:

Strings *may* be black: at the very least, not a single time do they give out a hint of stagelight shine, which all but confirmes they're not flatwounds. Silks definitely look yellow. Also see here (timestamp 25:29 and on) :

Silk is again pretty clearly yellow, and the nice zoom-in on Graham's plucking hand (and ring) shows strings that look black to me.

Conversely, this picture
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and this other picture,
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albeit not undisputably, appear to support the claim despite being both b/w and unable to show any yellowness or lack thereof at the headstock: the transition from black to some colour is clear nonetheless.

As for the Vox, it had flats on in all likelihood (1), (2).

Don't have time to investigate more: have fun, y'all, and sorry for the OT.

Looks like you solved this mystery for us!
The Thank You video clearly show the yellow silks on the tuning pegs.
I always skipped this video because of the playback. I wanted to hear them play this live.
I skipped around the Rockpalast video because it seemed like the entire video was extreme close ups on their faces.
Bobby Vega has LaBella tapes to cop the Graham sound, but something kept telling me it's not LaBella.
You got the eagle eye, bro!
 
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I saw the first few minutes of Questlove’s Sly documentary on Hulu, and there is a quick shot from a live show, during a pretty hyped-up version of Sing A Simple Song, where Larry is playing a black P-bass. The picture quality is pretty awful (sorry), but it looks like a maple neck, presumably early 70’s model. This was a surprise to me as I never knew him to play a P. The audio isn't great, but the bass sound is pretty chunky, definitely more P-like than his usual sound from that era.

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Larry's first Fender was a P in the 60s when he started with Sly. He switched to Jazz Basses shortly after and never looked back.
 

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