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Late 70s Ampeg . . . PLEASE HELP!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by ETEcarmine, Mar 18, 2006.


  1. ETEcarmine

    ETEcarmine

    Jun 29, 2005
    NYC
    I found a late 70s Ampeg head for sale. I was looking to buy the SVT-CL, but I know the older amps are always better. But this amp really has the crap kicked out of it. I'm going to try it out, but I was wondering if ANYONE HERE HAS PLAYED THIS AMP BEFORE. If so, does it totally beat the hell out of the SVT-CL? I fully appreciate your answers because I'm dying to finally hook up my rig.

    Here are some pictures of the 70s head. I hope you all can tell me if it's worth it. :help:

    <img src="http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7174/frontviewlow8bj.jpg"><BR><BR>
    <img src="http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/8660/rearviewlow9oz.jpg">
     

  2. Are you sure it's from the 70's. It looks like an MTI head from the early 80's to me, but I could be wrong. If it's from the late 70's it would be made by Magnavox. Does an MTI head use a 12dw7 tube?
     
  3. ETEcarmine

    ETEcarmine

    Jun 29, 2005
    NYC
    I really don't know too much about it. The person who's selling it says it's from the late 70s. I figure lots of people here know more than me, so I'm just trying to find out as much as I can about this amp. Thanks!
     
  4. The square front screams MTI, so, it wont be as good as the 69 and 70's ampegs, im sure thats an 80's one too

    - Will
     
  5. ETEcarmine

    ETEcarmine

    Jun 29, 2005
    NYC
    If it is an 80s one, how are they in comparison to the new SVT-CL?
     
  6. I have no idea how they compare to the SVT-CL. However if it was my money I would wait awhile. Earlier this year Ampeg announced the SVT-VR. These are as close as possible to the 70's SVT. Unless your getting a really good deal the price of an old SVT + new tubes + getting a tech to service it will be nearly as much as a new SVT-VR which will come with a 5 year warranty if you live in the U.S. I know which one I'd pick.

    Do a search for SVT-VR. Theres a long thread on it and I think it deals with the differences between Magnavox and MTI era SVT's and the difference between SVT-CL and SVT-VR.
     
  7. gwx014

    gwx014

    Dec 22, 2005
    Yeah I'm pretty sure that's an 1980's one too. Here's a picture of an 80's one that is on the Bass Central website. I'd think it would be better than the SVT-CL, although I've never played a 1980's SVT.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. gwx014

    gwx014

    Dec 22, 2005
    +1.
    The First SVT-VR thread (Got Locked):http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222423&highlight=SVT-VR
    The New SVT-VR thread (To replace the other one):http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234685&highlight=SVT-VR
     
  9. syciprider

    syciprider Banned

    May 27, 2005
    Inland Empire
    Since you stated that you know that the older SVTs are better, why are you asking if this one can beat a CL?
     
  10. Hey Carm, I'd pass on the deal if I were you, unless of course the price is so dirt cheap that it makes it worth your while. I replied to your PM too, just wanted to weigh in on the thread.

    Perhaps what he meant is that older amps are considered better, just as vintage instruments are, by some, thought of as the holy grail of instrument making. I don't profess to know what he was thinking, but if he's wrong perhaps offer some help or share knowledge, I know Carmine and he'd appreciate it; he isn't the type to ignore good advice or information.

    Steven Q.
     
  11. 8mmOD

    8mmOD

    Mar 20, 2005
    USA
    I endorse &amp; use Tech 21 pedals, Eminence loaded cabs, EMG pickups, Jim Dunlop picks &amp; Ernie Ball Strings, BC Rich Basses.
    its definately an 80's MTI. the transformers are different than the US earlier made SVTs, however i have read from a few sources that overall the amp is built very well. But i have no personal experience with the MTI amps so I dont know how it sounds.

    But if you have the dough for a new amp, I also would suggest waiting for the release of the SVT VR. i HAVE heard that amp & I think it sounds great
     
  12. ETEcarmine

    ETEcarmine

    Jun 29, 2005
    NYC
    Steve, you are the man and you hit the nail right on the head. Thanks bro.
     
  13. ETEcarmine

    ETEcarmine

    Jun 29, 2005
    NYC
    I'm reading all the threads about the SVT-VR right now, and it sounds like it's worth waiting for. I think I'll hold off on all purchases untill I can try one out. Thanks for the posts!
     
  14. timv

    timv Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2000
    Chandler, AZ
    The MTI svt's are good amps, better than current ones(can't comment on the new VR one yet though. They usually sell on ebay for 600 to 700 in better shape then that one. I probably wouldn't pay more than $500 for that one but if the price is right, I would definately pick it up, well with some help of course.
     
  15. The retail for those VR's is going to be killer tho, ive seen a mint condition 1970 SVT with a brand new set of tubes and a 1973 (i think) SVT 810 cab go together for &#163;750 on ebay in the UK, sorry, but thats a hell of alot cheaper than the new VR would be :p

    I would have bidded but alas had no way to pick it up, had little money, and had just retubed my SVT-II :bawl:
     
  16. 8mmOD

    8mmOD

    Mar 20, 2005
    USA
    I endorse &amp; use Tech 21 pedals, Eminence loaded cabs, EMG pickups, Jim Dunlop picks &amp; Ernie Ball Strings, BC Rich Basses.
    Considering the SVT + 810 was $2000 US in 1969, I think the VR's street price is pretty reasonable in todays market.

    You are always taking a chance buying used gear. My 'restored to mint' vintage SVT cab sounded fine when i demo'd it, but upon further inspection over half of the speakers needed to be reconed. That takes the wind out of a "good deal". Well it was still a good deal, but not "as" good. I wont argue that there are still "deals" out there on vintage SVT's, but its always a crap shoot when you don't know the history of an amp.

    oh & hey, whats up mowhak? how ya been?
     
  17. Totally agree there, kinda like my SVT-II, needed a retube pretty much straight away, took a bit of the great deal-ness out of it, but i still got it at a great price

    I think im just looking at it from a different perspective, if this amp is retailing at $2500, it will retail at &#163;2500 over here (like the 2-Pro does, well, it costs &#163;2000 over here usually), and &#163;2500 = ~$4500, so, you can see where im coming from there maybe?

    And im good dude, how about yourself :)
     
  18. 8mmOD

    8mmOD

    Mar 20, 2005
    USA
    I endorse &amp; use Tech 21 pedals, Eminence loaded cabs, EMG pickups, Jim Dunlop picks &amp; Ernie Ball Strings, BC Rich Basses.
    I'm good, thanks.

    In all fairness, you guys pay out the arse for new ampeg gear over there. It 'aint gonna be $4500 in the US, probably closer to $1800.
     
  19. I wish I saw that on ebay. The last few 70's and 80's SVT's I saw on ebay Germany went for nearly &#8364;1500 ( about 1000 pounds sterling ). These were without a cab and I'd hate to think of the courrier cost. If I could find a vintage SVT with 8x10 for &#163;750 I'd love to buy it.
     
  20. The 2-Pro can be got for less than €1900 from thomann.de and musicstore.com. That's between 1200 + 1300 sterling. It's the same here in Ireland with over the top prices. Just buy from Germany. My bank balance prefers it. Also if I buy from a retail store here I get 1 year warranty. If I buy from musicstore or thomann I get a 3 year warranty.