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#81
beebassdude said:
i have max ear protection with custom ear plugs. my ears rarely ring after shows. i take care of my ears, but i still enjoy turning up loud.

people that dont wear ear plugs playing heavy music are crazy, but theres nothing wrong with excessive volume if you take care of your ears.
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Ah, I didn't know you took appropriate precautions before my terse comment. For that I apologise. I'm glad you have the sense to protect your hearing. Playing loud can be fun, but I'd rather hear the details in the sound than a wall of volume. I hope the rest of your band also had adequate protection.

There are however many people in this world who do require a good stern talking to and general telling off. Hearing is far too precious and can't be fixed once it's damaged.
 
#82
ga_edwards said:
Ah, I didn't know you took appropriate precautions before my terse comment. For that I apologise. I'm glad you have the sense to protect your hearing. Playing loud can be fun, but I'd rather hear the details in the sound than a wall of volume. I hope the rest of your band also had adequate protection.

There are however many people in this world who do require a good stern talking to and general telling off. Hearing is far too precious and can't be fixed once it's damaged.
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no offense taken buddy, im in 100% agreement about hearing. other guys in my band dont wear ear plugs and i think theyre crazy, and frankly i dont know how its not downright painful but they claim theyre ok. its not my ears so im not worried lol.

the kinda music we play is really slow and loud so the details never get lost. anytime youre playing anything note-y or fast at high volumes, everything turns to mush.

put it this way, if i went back in time to 1972 to a sabbath concert, id expect it to go way beyond 11! slow crushing heavy business at insane volumes = sweeeeet.
 
#83
Guys will be guys and will do what they wish. Too many rehearsals turn out to be an avenue for some folks to play how and what they want, and volume can be a problem (or not, as evidenced here). I played in a blues/roots band that was very loud and I used earplugs. I don't like to use them, I feel like I'm in the next room, but the situation demanded it.

If you guys play that loud at your shows, well more power to you, no pun intended. but rehearsal for me, now, is about working things out and through, learning your parts and all the essentials for getting the tunes together. IME it's about getting the work done, not doing a mock show in the garage/living room/rehearsal space. More important to know where the solos/breaks are then to let a soloist go nuts, save that for Saturday night.

the loudest show I've been to in years was Robin Trower at a local 600+ seat club. This place lets the crowd come right up to the stage, I happened to get right next to where he set up, I wanted to see the crew setting up his pedal board. When the chords of the first tune let loose, I looked like that guy in the Maxell commercial. It was so loud I couldn't follow the changes in the songs. I mean I could see him change chords but I couldn't 'hear' any differences in quality. It was like I was buried in a sonic avalanche. I don't mind loud, even like it, but this was ridiculous. I was truly disappointed, Bridge of Sighs is a favorite. :hmm:
 
#84
Burlington said:
...I also find it funny when people say that you MUST WEAR EARPLUGS ALL THE TIME OR YOU WILL GO DEAF OMG. How many people do you see at concerts wearing earplugs? Not very many. And it's louder out there than on stage.
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I didn't wear earplugs for a good 20 + years of playing and I not only have a fair amount of hearing loss, but constant tinnitus as well. Facts are facts. Expose yourself to constant high volume playing for years and you are going to pay the price later in life. Honestly, no one here is jerking your chain with urban legends about hearing loss, they are trying to provide some insight.
 
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#87
I'll just chime in to say that, regardless of the overall band volume, if there's a volume war going on and the guitarists want to bury everone else, then they probably don't want or need a bass player. I mean, why have another band member if you're bent on making them silent?

I'd leave ASAP since they don't seem to value your sound or your presence.
 
#88
R Baer said:
I didn't wear earplugs for a good 20 + years of playing and I not only have a fair amount of hearing loss, but constant tinnitus as well. Facts are facts. Expose yourself to constant high volume playing for years and you are going to pay the price later in life. Honestly, no one here is jerking your chain with urban legends about hearing loss, they are trying to provide some insight.
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+1

The louder it is, the shorter amount of time it takes to do permanent damage.

After starting to wear ear plugs (and ones that are at least decent are really not that much money), my ears never ring after rehearsal.
 
#92
motherlode said:
Who hasn't had this problem, in ANY genre of music?
My advice is, ask the guitar player if he is having trouble hearing himself over the bass.......at this point, you might both want to have a hearing test done.
Best solution is, give the guitarist his own monitor mix, and put some of his guitar back at him through his monitor.
Most guitar players will turn up.............all night.........more and more...............I believe their hearing becomes more and more desensitized as the night goes on. They don't seem to understand, that if their amp is miked, them more they turn up, the most the sound guys has to turn it down, until the fader is at zero.
Then, they wonder why the band isn't getting booked there anymore.

Allen
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YES!!!
 
#93
Here's how I have dealt with overly loud guitarist at rehearsals in the past with great results. Get your guitarist to agree to using his smallest amp rig placed on one of those tilt back speaker stands for just one rehearsal. Every time I have tried this it worked amazingly well. Problem with most guitarist is that 90% of their volume is beaming straight ahead and right past their legs. You take all that volume, put it on a stand pointed it right at their head and I guarantee that they will turn the volume way down. Best part is that everyone will then turn down and really be able to hear the band as a whole much better.
 

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