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Double Bass Left Handed Orchestral DB players.

Funny you should mention this-I've seen a long-haired, left handed bassist who played at some large venue awhile back-can't remember the place but it was hard to tell if it was a man or woman. It was in a jazz setting.

Ring any bells? In all my years of traveling the globe while at work I've never seen a lefty bass player in a section. We are talking about 50 years of concertgoing.
 
I played Left-handed bass in the El Paso Symphony Orchestra for ten years without any problems. In fact my stand partner and I could really hear each other well and we defined our bow space. The bass was aquired for my by Gary Karr and was a custom made Yamamoto copy of the "Amati" bass.
 
Well, you do. Nothing wrong with being left handed, but *playing* left handed in the orchestra isn't how it's done... since plenty of left handed folks play very well indeed on right handed instruments, you can't really argue that there's good reason to build left handed instruments and cause the logistical issues. Although, seeing how we've found some who've done it and it doesn't seem to be as much problem as you'd imagine, maybe there isn't very much reason not to.

BTW... with that username, you wouldn't happen to be a pilot, would you? I mostly fly Archers, but the Warrior is a fine airplane too (not a heck of a lot of difference, to be honest... 20hp and a baggage door...)
 
I've never seen someone play lefthanded in an orchestra. It would be really out of place. For soloing or jazz it doesn't matter but in a section everyone needs to be able to line up. Playing lefty would mean that your bow would always be backwards from everyone else in the orchestra and you would stick out too much.

Just face away from the conductor. Problem solved. :D
 
Yep, I fly a Warrior. I've flown an Archer, nice bird. I'm working on my instrument right now...Back to left handed thing, I must admit that I play Jazz, Rockabilly, etc. so guess it's not really an arguement I should be involved in, I apologize.

Oh, no need to apologise... it's just that the orchestra is all about unison movement. There are no soloists until the composer calls one out, whereas in essentially all other styles, everyone is a soloist. So something like playing left-handed fundamentally doesn't matter except in the orchestra, and the debate here is about how much it would matter in that context.

Understand, I don't know how it would work in practice. I'm ambidextrous myself so it was no hardship whatever to play a right-handed instrument, and I can't imagine switching now.
 
Funny you should mention this-I've seen a long-haired, left handed bassist who played at some large venue awhile back-can't remember the place but it was hard to tell if it was a man or woman. It was in a jazz setting.

Ring any bells? In all my years of traveling the globe while at work I've never seen a lefty bass player in a section. We are talking about 50 years of concertgoing.


Jennifer Leitham?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Jane_Leitham
 
I've heard of players who do it (i think there was a guy in SF conservatory a few years back, but i never actually saw him). I don't think there is a way of playing the bass that is "right", there's only bad, good, and better approaches, and they vary widely from one player to the next. On the other hand, section string playing is a different story - you try to get the same sound concept in the same part of the bow with the same articulation as your principal player, etc. and there is a pretty rigid philosophy behind it with uniformity as a fundamental element. Also worth noting is the fact that i really don't think a violinist or cellist could ever get into a professional orchestra if they played backwards. Even if the issue is only the visual aspect of it (and to a large extent i think that is the issue) it's still a problem to enough people that playing lefty could serve as an unnecessary handicap at the professional level.

On the other hand, if you can do it without violating the philosophy of section string playing, then do it by all means. If it's the only way you know how to play, then of course you should play the way you know. If you are just deciding which way you want to play, just go with the traditional set-up. If left handed seems to offer some advantage, just know that the advantage is very short term and the disadvantages are long term. It's awkward any way you slice it for a pretty long while, lefty righty french german you name it. The only thing worse would be deciding later on to switch because of the logistical problems of fitting into a section or finding a suitable bass.
 
by professsional orchestra i mean an orchestra where the members are paid a reasonable professional per service rate with a CBA etc.
...On the other hand, section string playing is a different story - you try to get the same sound concept in the same part of the bow with the same articulation as your principal player, etc. and there is a pretty rigid philosophy behind it with uniformity as a fundamental element....
this is what i meant by "philosophy of section string playing." actually it's what i said, not just what i meant, but maybe it wasn't clear that these ideas were connected.
 
do you play in an orchestra bass section? a big part of uniformity is following the bowing of the player to your left. if i was always next to a guy who played left-handed i might get used to it, but otherwise if i was just subbing for a one time gig, it would drive me absolutely insane! i never said it's impossible, i just said it could add complications. i totally agree that it's less of a problem than if someone plays out of tune or doesn't focus, but it still could be a problem.
 
This thread is making a big deal out of nothing at all. Lefty, righty, backwards, frontwards...it does not really matter. A southpaw that learns the instrument like all the right-handed people (left hand on neck/right hand with bow) WILL NOT be at a disadvantage. Dwelling on distinctions is just a waste of energy. Often times, it is just a contrived mitigating circumstance that one can use to avoid what it takes to pursue achievement.
 
This thread is making a big deal out of nothing at all. Lefty, righty, backwards, frontwards...it does not really matter. A southpaw that learns the instrument like all the right-handed people (left hand on neck/right hand with bow) WILL NOT be at a disadvantage. Dwelling on distinctions is just a waste of energy. Often times, it is just a contrived mitigating circumstance that one can use to avoid what it takes to pursue achievement.

+1, But! It is still a real world issue. Guys (or girls) who have already started playing lefty, or play lefty slab bass and want to start learning upright. Maybe at first they aren't interested in orchestral playing, but get the bug later. This thread has laid out all the issues pretty exhaustively, and I think would be very valuable to a young person facing this decision.