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LEMMY bass tone

IT´S A CLASSIC \m/ I’m wondering if a Marshall vba 400 would get me in his territory though .

Honestly, I believe you could get there with a P bass. You'd just need a drive pedal, some boosted mids and some aggressive pick attack playing. It has a lot to do with volume and attack IMO. I can get the same types of sounds and tones out of my rig and my main player is an Ibanez ATK300, an Electric Power Unit into a GK 410 Neo. Then I use an MBD1 or DG X7 for dirty sounds. That can get me in Lemmy land all day.
 
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What do you think of lemmy bass tone on the classic ace of spades album ? It seems like there’s so much more goin on than just cranking the mids. I hear like 2 or three sounds mixed as one (one dry,one wet,one for the bass) . Best tone on earth IMO . So what do you think is done on the producing/recording to achieve this classic Motörhead bass tone ?

boost mids and lots of distortion … and play the bass like it is a big nasty rhythm guitar ...
 
Honestly, I believe you could get there with a P bass. You'd just need a drive pedal, some boosted mids and some aggressive pick attack playing. It has a lot to do with volume and attack IMO. I can get the same types of sounds and tones out of my rig and my main player is an Ibanez ATK300, an Electric Power Unit into a GK 410 Neo. Then I use an MBD1 or DG X7 for dirty sounds. That can get me in Lemmy land all day.


Yep a p-bass will do the trick … actually with the boosted mids and distortion pretty much and bass will work …
 
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Careful not to blow the cab. With 400w RMS, if you crank it into the red, you can put out as much as 800w in peaks. That should be plenty to blow any 412 on earth, especially one that'll blow with 400w. That's also a major reason why Lemmy used 100w heads...so he didn't blow the cabs all the time.
You can pull half the power tubes on those to make it distort earlier. I believe it's quite common among users of that model. Not sure if it will put it in super bass territory however.
 
Very cool thread.

I couldn't do it in real life because of MONEYS but lately I tried my best at Lemmy's tone as well and got a fair result with my BOSS GT-001.

What I did, basically, was getting two Marshall guitar amps (I can't remember if the same or still the same but in two different outputs, one of which had more bass frequencies) and I set one very mildly distorted and the other not very distorted, still, but more distorted than the almost clean one. I set one ('can't remember which of the two) with the famous 0 bass 10 mids 0 treble 8 presence 8 level setting and the other with 8 bass 10 mids 3 treble 0 presence level 5, or something like that, I'm not sure about the treble, presence and level but it was something along those lines.

I put 4x15 cabs on both and used only the neck pickup (or, as I refer to it, the ''more Motorhead sounding'' one, in any setting) of my Ibanez GSR180 (a jazz-style bass with single-coils... cheap bass but it's great!), obviously with the tone knob on the bass fully open. And there you go: Motorhead!

It's very fun to play on its own, but I found out that it's really hard to make fit into a mix context.
It might be because of my bass (that's far from being a Precision, Rick or any humbucker/split-coil equipped instrument) but it always would stand apart from the other instruments in a bad way. Maybe it's because I didn't distort it enough, but anyway, that's it.

I hope it helps!
 
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Dunno what’s going on tonewise, but if this is the real studio released version’s isolated bass....it’s pretty terrible. The tone’s whatever, but the playing is just...just not good. The magic of a good mix.


LOl, yeah that's pretty inconsistent and he doesn't stick to the groove that well. Despite that I do love his tone and vocals. I got to see them once with Anthrax opening, it was the 2nd loudest gig I ever been to(Manowar being the 1st). I briefly met Lemmy as well, super nice guy though I couldn't understand what he was saying(he was drinking at 11:00 am at first Ave lol)
 
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Dunno what’s going on tonewise, but if this is the real studio released version’s isolated bass....it’s pretty terrible. The tone’s whatever, but the playing is just...just not good. The magic of a good mix.

I disagree. He was right where he wanted to be. Pretty damn steady time keeping. Listen to it with the drums. Philthy Phil may have been all over the place time wise but Lemmy sounds tight.
 
I know right sir Haha ! I think I’m gonna go with this vba and his vbc 4x12 . Paired with my rick that should do the trick :bassist::bassist::bassist:

Both the T-bird pickup in his old Rick and the pickups in his signature model are humbuckers (the sig model used the Rick humbuckers found in the 4004), which are very different sounding from the single coils in the Rick 4001 or 4003. Functionally, though, between EQ and distortion, subtleties of bass configuration might not make that big a difference in the end.
 
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Dunno what’s going on tonewise, but if this is the real studio released version’s isolated bass....it’s pretty terrible. The tone’s whatever, but the playing is just...just not good. The magic of a good mix.

It’s the 2008 guitar hero version right there . Not the orginal 1980 version . Listen to it you’ll hear a pretty different sound . Which is the aim of this thread actually gathering infos about what’s been done in studio to achieve that sound .
 
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Very cool thread.

I couldn't do it in real life because of MONEYS but lately I tried my best at Lemmy's tone as well and got a fair result with my BOSS GT-001.

What I did, basically, was getting two Marshall guitar amps (I can't remember if the same or still the same but in two different outputs, one of which had more bass frequencies) and I set one very mildly distorted and the other not very distorted, still, but more distorted than the almost clean one. I set one ('can't remember which of the two) with the famous 0 bass 10 mids 0 treble 8 presence 8 level setting and the other with 8 bass 10 mids 3 treble 0 presence level 5, or something like that, I'm not sure about the treble, presence and level but it was something along those lines.

I put 4x15 cabs on both and used only the neck pickup (or, as I refer to it, the ''more Motorhead sounding'' one, in any setting) of my Ibanez GSR180 (a jazz-style bass with single-coils... cheap bass but it's great!), obviously with the tone knob on the bass fully open. And there you go: Motorhead!

It's very fun to play on its own, but I found out that it's really hard to make fit into a mix context.
It might be because of my bass (that's far from being a Precision, Rick or any humbucker/split-coil equipped instrument) but it always would stand apart from the other instruments in a bad way. Maybe it's because I didn't distort it enough, but anyway, that's it.

I hope it helps!
Great comment sir ! I use both pickup with my Ricky and the vintage pot. I roll off just a bit the bridge pickup volume to make the neck pup more « enhanced » . Soloing the bridge pickup will not get you to the oldschool Lemmy sound like other people say IMO