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Let's see your Macbook Pro Bloated Batterys

I think we're going to get to the point around here where computer talk threads get moved to the Lobby, or are banned like politics.

Most of the computer threads around here eventually roll over into an argument between the "I hate MS, Macs are WAY better" guys, the "Linux is the best ever" guys, and those who like MS products. :rollno:

-Mike

I have no idea why. I have all 3 OS's running in my house on some 10 different computers. They all suck (for different reasons)...let's be honest, they're computers. I have yet to use one that doesn't suck in some way.

People need to grow up.
 
Guys, here's my take on it from a very experienced Windows user who keeps a number of computers running:

Mac has a great OS, and they build quality products. However, batteries are generally 3rd party items built under contract, and Apple is no more immune to having problems with a 3rd party item than PCs are. Batches of bad batteries have happened to both.

That said, although I believe that Mac systems are superior for video and graphics work, I can't operate them. The commands make no sense to me. Sorry, not worth my time to mess with.

Linux and other systems are increasingly robust, but only those who have significant time to devote to learning the OS and finding programs that work with them - and will talk to the predominantly PC society we live in - can afford to use them. I have neither the time nor the interest in becoming enough of a computer type to mess with Linux.

The Windows-based PC may not be perfect, but the XP systems I have at home run for weeks at a time with no issues, no problems, and no re-boots. Aside from slight wackiness with the wireless network I use, they have minimal issues and downtime. They WORK. And they talk to everyone else in the world with no problems (Apple users have to build bridges to Windows, not the other way around; Windows has the big stick).

For the USER like me - not the computer geek - either the Mac or the Windows machine makes sense. Linux doesn't fit with the skills of even an above-average user.

I would also offer this observation:

PCs have enough issues that most knowledgeable users have encountered problems, taken them apart, replaced or installed cards or memory, and put them back together with proper function restored. I do this all the time.

Macs tend to be so stable that most of the Mac users I've encountered have never opened up the box. If they have a hardware problem, they have no clue how to deal with it. In that respect, the robustness of the Mac line actually leaves its users less capable of dealing with hardware problems - although they happen less often.

I say pick one and go on with life. Whatever OS you use, you win some and lose some. They all work.
 
Vista will be a decent OS in a year or 2... XP was total garbage when it first came out as well and everyone hated it... Then they fixed bugs and made it decent... Not the worse system in the world... Windows ME was much worse...
 
That's great! Glad it worked out so fast for you.

I don't have a Macbook Pro although I'm considering getting one in the near future. I'm running the same first-gen 17" aluminum Powerbook that I've had since early '03. This thing has been a dream. My friend was a beta tester for Apple and after giving me a glimpse of OS X before it was released to the public, I was hooked and bought my Mac soon after. I've never had a problem with my battery. Shortly after I got the computer I bought a second battery just so I could switch between them and extend their life and neither of them have had any issues.

*just as a side note
The only thing I've ever had a problem with is the optical drive. It worked just fine for quite a while. It didn't like SONY or Phillips discs but all others would burn fine. Then around the time that I moved to NY, I noticed that all the blank discs that I bought here would not burn in my drive. After talking to many people and scouring the Apple boards, I found that there were huge variances in the manufacturing methods between batches of discs, even the same models, and that wreaked havoc with the early drives that were very picky about media. I kept buying and refunding spindle after spindle looking for discs that would work to no avail. Finally I brought some discs back with me from the Midwest (where I was living when I first got the laptop) and the majority of them burned fine. Maybe the older media stock in the Midwest was the reason? It seems that my old drive (Matshita UJ-815) just doesn't recognize the newer discs and their formatting scheme for whatever reason. It's an easy fix though. I'm gonna spruce up my "old" 17-incher before investing in another Mac (possibly iMac or Mac Pro even). The site iFixIt.com has all the parts I need so I'm gonna have fun opening up my laptop and replacing the optical drive and possibly the hard drive, too!
 
I don't know why people complain about *insert OS here*, I've ran macs, I've ran windows, I am borderline incompetant but have always kept my computers working great. Both have flaws, both mess up on you. It takes a little basic knowledge to fix something when things go wrong. It's all the same. Know your machine, know how to operate it, they all have quirks. I would never refrain from getting a mac or pc. Both have equal flaws, both work fairly good. I've never tried linux personally, so I can't comment on it. I think my next computer will be an imac, but I've been running XP at home since it came out. I'll probaly have dual boot on it, which will be a first for me, might be fun.