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Line 6 HX Effects

So I have encountered a quirk in using this with Ableton and other devices on Midi clock.

The Midi chain is: Ableton>USB>HXFX>Midi cable>H9
HXFX midi channel 1
H9 midi channel 2

I have Ableton set to send midi clock to HXFX and that works perfectly.

I have the H9 set to receive midi clock and the HXFX "Midi Thru: On" and "Tx Midi Clock: Midi".

The HXFX changes tempos from Ableton, but the H9 freaks out and jumps to over double the tempo. I have to turn "Tx Midi Clock: Off" because I think the H9 is receiving the midi tempo twice from the HX and from Ableton.

All of this is fine, but then when I turn off Ableton and use tap tempo on the HX it doesn't transmit tempo to the H9. I have to go back into the global settings and turn "Tx Midi Clock: Midi"

Does anyone have a solution so I can do both and not have to menu dive?

I think that the right config would be Rx MIDI Clock: USB; Tx MIDI: OFF; MIDI Thru: ON.
I am not an expert though
 
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I had to learn Black Hole Sun by Soundgarden for a 90s live stream set. I always hated playing along with that song because they tune to A432 and down a 1/2 step. According to Reddit A432 is -31.77 cents from A440. I threw a pitchblock on mix 100%, pitch -1, cents -31.80, mix 100%.

I don't know why they even show the second decimal place if we can only adjust by values of 0.2, but -31.8 sounds damn close to -31.77 and saved me from having to retune my bass while I practiced.
 
Hey guys, a lot of info here. Gonna do some reading. Would you guys recommend this unit overall for someone who really isn't wanting a pedalboard but has effects at the ready in a small form factor? Been looking into the Tech 21 Flyrig but feel I might get more bang for my buck with this unit.

I have a guitarist buddy who swears by his Helix floor unit. I would just need the HX effects as I’m very happy with my current rig. Just don’t know a whole lot about what this unit can produce tone wise. Essentials that I need to sound good would be OD, chorus and a compressor really. Everything else would just be for having it at the ready.

Cheers.
 
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Hey guys, a lot of info here. Gonna do some reading. Would you guys recommend this unit overall for someone who really isn't wanting a pedalboard but has effects at the ready in a small form factor? Been looking into the Tech 21 Flyrig but feel I might get more bang for my buck with this unit.

I have a guitarist buddy who swears by his Helix floor unit. I would just need the HX effects as I’m very happy with my current rig. Just don’t know a whole lot about what this unit can produce tone wise. Essentials that I need to sound good would be OD, chorus and a compressor really. Everything else would just be for having it at the ready.

Cheers.

Either the HX FX, or the HX Stomp, would work for you I think; or even the new Pod Go if you havent looked at that yet. I've been happy with my FX but could have got by with a Stomp fine as well. I run: EQ, Compressor, Overdrive, FX Loop (EHX Freeze), Reverb, Volume pedal, Noise Gate

HX FX has more effects slots in 1 preset (9), Stomp is physically smaller and has Amp sims (but only 6 slots), and Pod Go has a few order limitations but a built in expression pedal.
 
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Either the HX FX, or the HX Stomp, would work for you I think; or even the new Pod Go if you havent looked at that yet. I've been happy with my FX but could have got by with a Stomp fine as well. I run: EQ, Compressor, Overdrive, FX Loop (EHX Freeze), Reverb, Volume pedal, Noise Gate

HX FX has more effects slots in 1 preset (9), Stomp is physically smaller and has Amp sims (but only 6 slots), and Pod Go has a few order limitations but a built in expression pedal.
Yeah. I think the HX FX would work good. The most I have had on my pedalboard was: tuner, compressor, OD, fuzz, looper. But now that I play fretless I'd like some chorus and a few other things. I just don't want the hassle of a giant board. Are the OD tones good? I’m used to SansAmp etc.
 
Yeah. I think the HX FX would work good. The most I have had on my pedalboard was: tuner, compressor, OD, fuzz, looper. But now that I play fretless I'd like some chorus and a few other things. I just don't want the hassle of a giant board. Are the OD tones good? I’m used to SansAmp etc.

I don't have the physical pedals to compare them to, but I think they're great. One of the effects is modeled after a SansAmp BDDI.

Here's a great resource of all the available effects and what they're modeled after:
Line 6 Helix Effect Models | List with all effect models in Helix
 
Hey guys, a lot of info here. Gonna do some reading. Would you guys recommend this unit overall for someone who really isn't wanting a pedalboard but has effects at the ready in a small form factor? Been looking into the Tech 21 Flyrig but feel I might get more bang for my buck with this unit.

I would just need the HX effects as I’m very happy with my current rig. Just don’t know a whole lot about what this unit can produce tone wise.

Yeah. I think the HX FX would work good. The most I have had on my pedalboard was: tuner, compressor, OD, fuzz, looper. But now that I play fretless I'd like some chorus and a few other things. I just don't want the hassle of a giant board.

Having had both the HXFX and the Stomp for about a year and a half, you might like the Stomp better, actually. The HXFX was designed more as a pedalboard controller, having an additional FX loop and a pretty in-depth MIDI control section. I have mine set up as the brain of my main pedalboard, in conjunction with a few other favorite pedals. This isn't to say that the HXFX can't do what my other pedals do, it's more "just because I can" with the HXFX. Well, maybe with the exception of synth... IMO, that's the one weak point of the Helixes at the moment, and I've really begun to lean on the C4 with quite a few songs in my main cover band gig.

The Stomp doesn't have the MIDI control of the HXFX, but it does have amp/preamp/cab simulations in a smaller form factor. I've personally been using IRs instead, but there are some pretty good options in the Stomp's amp/cab sim section. Whether or not you need those is up to you, but they're nice to have in there.

I have used the stomp as a substitute pedalboard for gigs in small spaces. Always on compressor, a couple flavours of OD. No complaints. The choruses sound fine to me but I don’t use them much.

This is very much how I use my Stomp as well... Unless I need my C4, I often take just my Stomp a grab'n'go all-in-one pedalboard that fits in the pocket of my gig bag. Always on Comp, and patches with 10-Band EQ and IR blocks when my band is on IEMs. I do also have an external dual switch for more switching options. I use Footswitch 4 to change view mode so I can easily change patches, and FS5 as the tuner/mute switch.


HX FX has more effects slots in 1 preset (9), Stomp is physically smaller and has Amp sims (but only 6 slots), and Pod Go has a few order limitations but a built in expression pedal.

Rumor has been circulating that an upcoming update for the Stomp (I think maybe firmware 3.0?) will up the block count to 8 or 9 as well. I'll be interested to see if there will be any DSP limits in the Stomp with that many blocks, but am looking forward to the additional signal chain options.

Essentials that I need to sound good would be OD, chorus and a compressor really. Are the OD tones good? I’m used to SansAmp etc.

I have a Darkglass Symmetry on my HXFX board, but use the Deluxe Comp as an always on block in my Stomp and am quite happy with it. The LA Studio Comp and 3-Band Comp get a good amount of love around Talkbass too, I believe.

Check out that list that Sonicblaze linked to for a full list (Thanks @Sonicblaze!), but as he mentioned, there is indeed a Sansamp model and it's quite good if you like the Sansamp sound. There are also a lot of other really good dirt models in the Helixes. My personal fav is the Teemah. Nicely touch sensitive, and a wide array of overdrive available. A light gain setting with some high cut and it sounds KILLER with a Pbass. The new Alpaca model is great as well. Similar to the Teemah in flavor, but with more drive available. The Obsidian is also good for the Darkglass B7K sound, and the Triangle Fuzz is a pretty great Muff model. And if you really need to cut through with fuzz.... check out the new Legendary Drive, modeled after Steve Vai's Carvin VLD1. I posted a Legendary vs Brown Acid comparison a while back if you're interested. I don't ever get that wild with dirt on an actual gig, but I really like the sound.

Lots of good everything in the Helix, and chorus is no exception. My fav is the Dimension model by far, but the 70's Chorus, Trinity Chorus and Analog Chorus are quite good as well.

I know this will sound a little gushy, but seriously... There are some effects in there that I'd never personally use, but there's not anything in the Helix models that sounds "bad." Line 6 really did (does) their homework with Helix models.

5sg.
 
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If hx stomp gets 8-9 blocks we better get something amp related...:eek::bored:

It's not a dedicated 8 blocks, it just allows unblocking of the DSP so if you run only lower DSP models you can get up to 8 blocks. If you try and run multiple high DSP models you will max out potentially even before the current 6 (this has happened to me currently).

Really it is just bringing it into line with the rest of the HX stable and allowing a full DSP to be used.
 
It's not a dedicated 8 blocks, it just allows unblocking of the DSP so if you run only lower DSP models you can get up to 8 blocks. If you try and run multiple high DSP models you will max out potentially even before the current 6 (this has happened to me currently).

Really it is just bringing it into line with the rest of the HX stable and allowing a full DSP to be used.

Ironically, if this happens, I may end up re-evaluating my board and switching back from my LT to a Stomp, picking up a C4 in the process.
 
Ironically, if this happens, I may end up re-evaluating my board and switching back from my LT to a Stomp, picking up a C4 in the process.

Now you’re just copying me :roflmao:

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I had to learn Black Hole Sun by Soundgarden for a 90s live stream set. I always hated playing along with that song because they tune to A432 and down a 1/2 step. According to Reddit A432 is -31.77 cents from A440. I threw a pitchblock on mix 100%, pitch -1, cents -31.80, mix 100%.

I don't know why they even show the second decimal place if we can only adjust by values of 0.2, but -31.8 sounds damn close to -31.77 and saved me from having to retune my bass while I practiced.

<Youtubes why people would tune to A432>. Interesting...
 
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<Youtubes why people would tune to A432>. Interesting...

There are a lot. I hate them all lol.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwigq4bHguDqAhXFj3IEHcQ2DyAQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5AOaEQcJpV6ACLD7Ou5uCC&usg=AOvVaw0XgR8IsBBA3nNUdn5OEFDR

The only reasonable argument I've ever heard for using it is because another instrument is permanently tuned that way (pipe organ), or to help singers at the top of their range.
 
I have powering questions for anyone using a Zuma or Ojai:

I purchased both, along with current doublers, to power my entire board. I mistakenly purchased 2.1mm to 2.5mm polarity reverse cables, thinking the HX devices were the same as the Eventide H9. I was wrong, HX devices are center negative. I'm struggling to find an affordable cable that will convert 2.1mm to 2.5 without reversing polarity.

The few examples I have found are $10+ in shipping for tiny 6 inch cables.
 
I have powering questions for anyone using a Zuma or Ojai:

I purchased both, along with current doublers, to power my entire board. I mistakenly purchased 2.1mm to 2.5mm polarity reverse cables, thinking the HX devices were the same as the Eventide H9. I was wrong, HX devices are center negative. I'm struggling to find an affordable cable that will convert 2.1mm to 2.5 without reversing polarity.

The few examples I have found are $10+ in shipping for tiny 6 inch cables.

This works for my HXFX from a Cioks DC7 (with a 2outlet combiner for amperage reasons):
Cioks 3050 cable, CIOKS 3050 Flex Cable Type 3 Guitar Pedal Power CABLE - NEW - PERFECT CIRCUIT | eBay
 
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Why not split the difference and use a Stomp and Effects?View attachment 3913816

Good grief my cable management is abysmal. Next check I'll buy a cable kit and some adjustable midi cables, maybe.

Dude, just no :rollno::thumbsdown::dead: haha I couldn’t use that setup man. That would kill me with all that everywhere haha not knockin ya in any way mind you. I just see that and I’m like “I can’t take it!” Nice selection of pedals though for sure!!! I too have the stomp as well as the fx. I’ve tonight about putting them on the same board......that could be a lot o fun.....
 
Dude, just no :rollno::thumbsdown::dead: haha I couldn’t use that setup man. That would kill me with all that everywhere haha not knockin ya in any way mind you. I just see that and I’m like “I can’t take it!” Nice selection of pedals though for sure!!! I too have the stomp as well as the fx. I’ve tonight about putting them on the same board......that could be a lot o fun.....

Nice pedal privileges revoked.

This is why we can't have nice things.