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Line 6 HX Stomp

Finally got the update to 3.5 done with the week off from my church gig. Immediately built a new setup using a dual Ampeg 4/Moon amp into a dual cab, sounds great. Getting a kick out of the Pillars as well, I was always curious about trying that one in pedal form.

Question of curiosity for those of you that did the update, what cabs would you want Line6 to add in that weren't in 3.5?
 
not generally a problem with me... was thinking more about impedance loading and if that is a problem.
Left and right inputs are both active and independent. There won't be any impedance loading between the two channels at the input.

Don't forget to try out the different input impedance settings... Fender tube amp input impedances are around 190K, and I like that with my passive magnetic-pickup basses.

Basses with passive piezo pickups need 1Meg.
 
Aloha all,
I just got my Stomp and find it easier to use than expected, but also a bit more confusing. Building patches is a bit daunting with all of the options available (which I'm sure is great in the long run but hard to get started- but adjusting amp "tube sag" is probably not the first parameter to be concerned with).

There are a lot of individual effects but putting it all together into a useable patch has been challenging.

As a brand new user, I've definitely noticed how easy it is to go from "that sounds OK" to "that sounds HORRIBLE just by tweaking a few parameters.

I found a bunch of free patches to download right on the Line 6 website. That helped a lot to have a place to at least get started with some useable patches. I've also seen some collections for sale in the Line 6 Marketplace but many just seem to be amp/cab sims or "metal collections" of just different distortions. Also, many IR's available but, again, incorporating them into a usable setup is daunting.

Can anyone recommend some other sources for complete, usable patches which can be bought/downloaded which might utilize some of the more "common" signal chains people use (and that can then be modded or built on to meet desired taste?) e.g., a combination of a compressor, a fuzz/distortion, chorus plus amp/cab. A compressor, distortion, envelope + amp/cab. Preferably, filter chains that incorporate parallel dry signal chains, as well. Ideally, even something as simplified as "70's rock sound" or "Motown" or "RHCP envelope sound" but which are complete, usable patches. I figure that just seeing how things are laid out will be educational. Some of the collections I've seen (in the L6 Marketplace) really don't sound great, though.

I am particularly interested in finding a good "Geddy" sound, likely in combination with my Tech21 YYZ pedal.
Thanks.
Norm
 
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Aloha all,
I just got my Stomp and find it easier to use than expected, but also a bit more confusing. Building patches is a bit daunting with all of the options available (which I'm sure is great in the long run but hard to get started- but adjusting amp "tube sag" is probably not the first parameter to be concerned with).

There are a lot of individual effects but putting it all together into a useable patch has been challenging.

As a brand new user, I've definitely noticed how easy it is to go from "that sounds OK" to "that sounds HORRIBLE just by tweaking a few parameters.

I found a bunch of free patches to download right on the Line 6 website. That helped a lot to have a place to at least get started with some useable patches. I've also seen some collections for sale in the Line 6 Marketplace but many just seem to be amp/cab sims or "metal collections" of just different distortions. Also, many IR's available but, again, incorporating them into a usable setup is daunting.

Can anyone recommend some other sources for complete, usable patches which can be bought/downloaded which might utilize some of the more "common" signal chains people use (and that can then be modded or built on to meet desired taste?) e.g., a combination of a compressor, a fuzz/distortion, chorus plus amp/cab. A compressor, distortion, envelope + amp/cab. Preferably, filter chains that incorporate parallel dry signal chains, as well. Ideally, even something as simplified as "70's rock sound" or "Motown" or "RHCP envelope sound" but which are complete, usable patches. I figure that just seeing how things are laid out will be educational. Some of the collections I've seen (in the L6 Marketplace) really don't sound great, though.

I am particularly interested in finding a good "Geddy" sound, likely in combination with my Tech21 YYZ pedal.
Thanks.
Norm
Try some of the factory stock patches after you update to firmware 3.5. They will start with BAS. I found several of those useful as is or with very little tweaking.
 
was near a Guitar Center today so I figured I'd pop in and wander around. I've been super close to pulling the trigger on an HX Stomp for months now but just couldn't justify it... they had a complete in box, hardly ever used one for $480.

...so a factory reset and a firmware update later, I'm pretty satisfied with it. I got Helix Native a few years ago for stupid cheap so I was already familiar with the software so it was real easy to get things set up.

It feels incredibly goofy to use a pricey pedal with like 300 effects for only noise gate, eq, and a drive, but if I was to buy an NS-2, a 10 band EQ, and [insert dirt pedal here] I'd already be way over what I paid for this.

That said, the ability to very easily parallel chain any of the drive models is insanely powerful for bass. That alone probably justifies it.
 
Also I pretty quickly figured out that I wouldn't be ditching my MXR comp anytime soon as the digital comps on this all seem pretty awful by comparison, especially on more than just very basic settings. Everything else seems pretty fantastic. The noise suppression options rule, I have a Rat heavily gated in the parallel loop and it kicks ass
 
Aloha all,
I just got my Stomp and find it easier to use than expected, but also a bit more confusing. Building patches is a bit daunting with all of the options available (which I'm sure is great in the long run but hard to get started- but adjusting amp "tube sag" is probably not the first parameter to be concerned with).

There are a lot of individual effects but putting it all together into a useable patch has been challenging.

As a brand new user, I've definitely noticed how easy it is to go from "that sounds OK" to "that sounds HORRIBLE just by tweaking a few parameters.

I found a bunch of free patches to download right on the Line 6 website. That helped a lot to have a place to at least get started with some useable patches. I've also seen some collections for sale in the Line 6 Marketplace but many just seem to be amp/cab sims or "metal collections" of just different distortions. Also, many IR's available but, again, incorporating them into a usable setup is daunting.

Can anyone recommend some other sources for complete, usable patches which can be bought/downloaded which might utilize some of the more "common" signal chains people use (and that can then be modded or built on to meet desired taste?) e.g., a combination of a compressor, a fuzz/distortion, chorus plus amp/cab. A compressor, distortion, envelope + amp/cab. Preferably, filter chains that incorporate parallel dry signal chains, as well. Ideally, even something as simplified as "70's rock sound" or "Motown" or "RHCP envelope sound" but which are complete, usable patches. I figure that just seeing how things are laid out will be educational. Some of the collections I've seen (in the L6 Marketplace) really don't sound great, though.

I am particularly interested in finding a good "Geddy" sound, likely in combination with my Tech21 YYZ pedal.
Thanks.
Norm
It can be particularly tough because I know myself and alot of other Helix users have found alot of the default amp settings to not be as neutral as might be expected. I haven't seen it posted in some time, but this guy has some cool EQ tips for the main bass models to get a more neutral starting point as well as a number of free presets to try: Link Removed
 
Try some of the factory stock patches after you update to firmware 3.5. They will start with BAS. I found several of those useful as is or with very little tweaking.

thanks. That's indeed where I started but those seem to be bass-oriented "effects" rather than complete patches. I'm looking for complete patches that incorporate both amp/cab sims as well as common effects chains. I have seen some for free download or sale but only from the Line 6 site/store (or from links to individual musicians' sites from Line 6). For e.g., Line 6 offers the "Metallurgy Collection" (but this is geared to guitars playing "metal" and I am not a guitar player nor into metal).
 
It feels incredibly goofy to use a pricey pedal with like 300 effects for only noise gate, eq, and a drive, but if I was to buy an NS-2, a 10 band EQ, and [insert dirt pedal here] I'd already be way over what I paid for this.

Not goofy. There's nothing wrong with using it (or any gear) how YOU want to use it, and it's totally worth it if it gets you to your tonal goals. :thumbsup:

5sg.
 
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Aloha all,
I just got my Stomp and find it easier to use than expected, but also a bit more confusing. Building patches is a bit daunting with all of the options available (which I'm sure is great in the long run but hard to get started- but adjusting amp "tube sag" is probably not the first parameter to be concerned with).

There are a lot of individual effects but putting it all together into a useable patch has been challenging.

As a brand new user, I've definitely noticed how easy it is to go from "that sounds OK" to "that sounds HORRIBLE just by tweaking a few parameters.

I found a bunch of free patches to download right on the Line 6 website. That helped a lot to have a place to at least get started with some useable patches. I've also seen some collections for sale in the Line 6 Marketplace but many just seem to be amp/cab sims or "metal collections" of just different distortions. Also, many IR's available but, again, incorporating them into a usable setup is daunting.

Can anyone recommend some other sources for complete, usable patches which can be bought/downloaded which might utilize some of the more "common" signal chains people use (and that can then be modded or built on to meet desired taste?) e.g., a combination of a compressor, a fuzz/distortion, chorus plus amp/cab. A compressor, distortion, envelope + amp/cab. Preferably, filter chains that incorporate parallel dry signal chains, as well. Ideally, even something as simplified as "70's rock sound" or "Motown" or "RHCP envelope sound" but which are complete, usable patches. I figure that just seeing how things are laid out will be educational. Some of the collections I've seen (in the L6 Marketplace) really don't sound great, though.

I am particularly interested in finding a good "Geddy" sound, likely in combination with my Tech21 YYZ pedal.
Thanks.
Norm

Rick Beato's packs have at least a few of the exact things you are asking about, and I think they sound pretty good(70's rock, motown and geddy sound).. Not super expensive either.
 
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Rick Beato's packs have at least a few of the exact things you are asking about, and I think they sound pretty good(70's rock, motown and geddy sound).. Not super expensive either.
I have these and despite him making some specifically aimed at active basses I think even those sound bad with an active bass, at least by default- they're very crispy and harsh. The passive tones are actually dialed in quite nicely though so I don't have a problem recommending it to anyone running a passive bass. especially a p bass on the motown patch.